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126: Post UFC 275 Review

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0:00 – Edgar OtraVez
Hey, what’s up? This is Edgar OtraVez, bringing you another episode of the floral podcast. Now today on the show, I have my co-host Lechuga, and we’re going to do a post-flight review of UFC 275 with the main event being Glover Teixeira vs Jiri Prochazka. Now if you are new to the show, and you’re interested in things like combat sports and jujitsu, we’ve come to the right place. If you go to our website, the floral podcast.com There you will find a complete catalogue of all our episodes, including specific sections just for combat sports. We also have a store where you can purchase a merchandise and rep. That podcast you know, let people know that you’re down with the flow row podcast. This was a banger of a fight man. There was so much good action in this one. I hope you guys watched it. It was great. And if you for whatever reason decided you wanted to skip this one, please go watch this one. USC 275 was amazing. So anyway, I hope you liked this episode. Now on with the show.

All right. So welcome to another episode of the floral podcast. I am Edgar OtraVez. And today my co-host is Ella Chuga. And this is going to be a post-fight show for the UFC 275 With gluer to Shara vs UD Porsche Aska as the main event How you doing on the brother?

1:33 – El Lechuga
And I’m still delirious. I am fully I’m fully torqued. It’s been we’re recording this on Tuesday. You know, I’ve had time to dump a cold bucket of water on myself and I’m I’m still on cloud nine. That was amazing. Dude,

1:53 – Edgar OtraVez
that night was freaking awesome. I want a little money. I did I did. And we’ll get we’ll get to it but like I did put a parlay on it. I did exactly like how I said on the podcasts I put it partly on Wally or Valentina and blower and blower dropped the ball on me man.

2:17 – El Lechuga
Your your pilot your parlay was very very alive with 30 seconds left in that fight. God Oh

2:26 – Edgar OtraVez
dude, I thought it was gonna happen to man I was I was so close because I had gone to DraftKings and DraftKings isn’t paying me so you know, I’m just saying no. But I went to DraftKings and I put money. I put $25 of my own money on that on that parlay. And they give you I used a promo code. And so I got a bunch of free bets. And I took $25 of the free bets and put in put it again in the parlay. So there was 50 bucks on that parlay. I could have won 200 something bucks. And it fell apart it right at the fucking end, man.

3:05 – El Lechuga
But what away? What Oh, way to lose that man.

3:08 – Edgar OtraVez
I was screaming my head off, man.

3:15 – El Lechuga
That was such an exciting fight. Oh, it was it was great.

3:19 – Edgar OtraVez
Man. You know, at least from my perspective, I had global winning the fight. How did you have it

3:26 – El Lechuga
had cover up? Yeah. But it was such a so I rewatched it. And then I rewatched it again with my dad. And it’s so hard to tell who’s winning? Because literally the same thing kept happening every round. Yeah. year you would go in there super strong. Make it look like oh, he’s about to knock out clover. And then I don’t know or Glover would get them on the ground and start ground and ground doing you know, ground pounds. Yeah. And just so it’s like, how the fuck are you supposed to score that like yeah, he was winning for the first three minutes of that round and then go over it took over for the last two minutes. So it’s like what? Yeah, every round is pretty much like that.

4:07 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, I felt I felt global started a little slow every round. And so it as as the round evolved you know, glow were started picking them apart. Because a lot of what you said was true with with theory. He’s He’s new to me. And he is a very wild fighter. No, he fights with his hands down. He’s got a lot he’s very rangy. He’s got a long arms and stuff. So he uses that really well to his advantage. And he’s got a lot of like yeah, and you’re right about the thing you said in the last podcast where he’s he kind of doesn’t know what he’s gonna do. And it almost looks like a faint but it’s not a faint. It’s almost like oh, I changed my mind, you know?

4:54 – El Lechuga
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s the perfect way to describe it. And because I saw like improvising

5:00 – Edgar OtraVez
yes the whole time. And it’s, it’s really interesting. It’s fun to watch for sure.

5:06 – El Lechuga
But sometimes to his detriment. Yes. Yeah. makes him special is also what hurts him.

5:11 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, I think he’s a very beatable guy. I don’t think you’ll hold on to the title very long. I think if Goldberg gets the rematch, Glover will win. And unfortunately, I thought that Glover would be able to take him to the fifth round and win the fight.

5:27 – El Lechuga
Well, he pretty much did. He almost did. Yeah.

5:31 – Edgar OtraVez
And then Yuri threw on the sloppiest fucking Rear Naked Choke dude. And I was like, little over. No,

5:40 – El Lechuga
I couldn’t believe it. I honestly couldn’t believe it. I was like, What the fuck? Yeah. Even when? Because the camera angle was a poor camera angle at the ends. You didn’t even see when Glover tap? Yeah, so you’re like, What the fuck? It’s over? Yeah,

5:54 – Edgar OtraVez
I thought that I thought it was an error on the referees part. I thought he started unnecessarily. And ya know, the like, right after you get a different camera angle, and you see gluer tapping. I’m like, Oh, he tapped to that. And no, no, no strike against global that was a real rear naked choke. Yeah, it was just tight. It was tight. It was just that he didn’t have his hooks and he wasn’t on his bag. He did it from the side. And I don’t want to make this sound as harsh as is going to come off. But I think Glover lost that fight. I don’t think URI one you don’t agree. I agree. Yeah, like global global should have been able to beat this cat.

6:35 – El Lechuga
If Yuri had put in that same choke in the second round or something Glover gets out. Absol over was completely gassed. And he even said it after the fight. I was completely gassed. The body shots that URI landed I think was in the fourth round. Yeah, he said just completely took all the gas out of them.

6:56 – Edgar OtraVez
The other and you know, let’s talk about some of the mistakes, I think that were made. And you know, again, hindsight is 2020. It’s easy for us to sit here and talk about the mistakes. It’s really hard to kind of execute some of these things and undo corrections while you’re fighting. But one of the things that I saw was that Glover had a few opportunities, not just one or two, a few where he could have finished the fight on the feet. Yeah. Nice. Round. Yeah, in the fifth round, especially. And he chose to go in and try to take them down and implement his jujitsu, which I thought was in, like I said, in the last podcast, I thought that that would be the way for him to win. Right. And he probably felt the same, but then he couldn’t course correct. Like, he couldn’t just stay off of that he heard him and instead of finishing them on our feet on the feet, with his boxing, he thought it would be safer for him to take them down and try to implement some jujitsu, which almost worked a few times. Yeah. And I think that was the biggest flaw that he made he could have especially in the fifth round he could have finished it

8:11 – El Lechuga
Yep. I think he I mean, I honestly I think year he was out like he was knocked out on his feet slumped forward and of Glover had just moved out of the way and let him fall to the ground. The fight was over Yeah, go over or just had to like kneel over and hit him one time with a hammer fist or whatever and the ref would have stopped it yeah and instead go over and try to put them in a guillotine Yeah,

8:35 – Edgar OtraVez
exactly sloppy at yeah and then he slipped off right and yeah, he slipped

8:39 – El Lechuga
off and weary and unconscious year he woke up on top of clover somehow and then started doing the ground and pound on clover. No, it was crazy it was I couldn’t believe it.

8:51 – Edgar OtraVez
I couldn’t believe it either. And some of the some of the things we’re we did speak about last time where he’s dangerous were a URIs dangerous with the ground and pound or survived some of those but they there it was tricky. It was tricky to survive those Grantham pounds but as soon as he got out from under him you know and either box he was a you know Gore has has good enough boxing this stop theory which is a little bit more of what I was surprised because he seems very dangerous theory seems very dangerous on the feet but just because he’s wild and unpredictable. Uber’s straightforward boxing, simplistic boxing good boxing, a

9:34 – El Lechuga
very basic very basic but it sound it sound boxing, and he’s not going to take a stupid shot.

9:40 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, very solid boxing that was gonna work that was that should have worked and he could have finished them on the feet and then he you know, he went in for that for that takedown. But how about the way you he got out of that head and arm choke

9:55 – El Lechuga
you? Oh my god. Yeah, of course it looked like he was out and then he gave the thumbs up. Up to the ref.

10:00 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, well he like he like rolled out from under the head and arm choke yeah arm triangle. Yeah. Uri. Like, kicked his feet up over Yeah, over blower’s arm and rolled out of it. I’m like, I’ve never seen anybody get out like that.

10:16 – El Lechuga
Yeah. So while he and while he did that, he like torqued his own arm to create leverage. Did you notice that? No, I didn’t. Yeah, for you if you rewatch that now as you’re doing the stuff with his legs or whatever. But as he’s finally like, getting that small angle to try and flip to do sweep or something, he then pulled on his own arm and created leverage to them break Glover’s hold? Oh, yes, I suppose just being impressive. Honestly, I did not expect him to be able to do that. I

10:43 – Edgar OtraVez
didn’t even know that was a move. I’m gonna I’m gonna try it now. Not that I get stuck in the head and arm choke very often. But that was I was like, Okay, I’m gonna take that and put that in my pocket and use it when I spar. But I’ve never seen that. I don’t know if it could work. I think it just works probably in the NoGi situation where you kind of all sweaty

11:03 – El Lechuga
Yeah, super sweaty and tired. Yeah, but it was like what

11:06 – Edgar OtraVez
you know, it was it was really, really cool. I thought that was really really cool. And just watching them fight was cool. Year is a very exciting fighter fighter. And one thing that was a little bit of a distraction was that little moptop that he had going on. Yeah, it’s,

11:22 – El Lechuga
I call he he said before the fight because normally he wears that thing sticking straight up. This time. He had it kind of laying flat. He said that he noticed while sparring getting ready for this fight that when he has it tight and sticking straight up. It’s harder for him to get out of chokes. Oh, yeah. So he said like i He purposely laid it flat. So then Gloria wouldn’t be able to hold on as much. It was like, Well, I don’t know. Maybe you shouldn’t use that hairstyle, man.

11:50 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, maybe you should just shave it all the way down, man. Just go minimalist. You know, you’re into the whole Japanese culture thing there there. Shido. Yeah, go go go with the minimalist styles. I don’t know, man, that that guy’s a wacky guy. But man that broke my heart too. And it broke my wallet. Dude,

12:10 – El Lechuga
that was Oh, man. So how much are you about to win?

12:14 – Edgar OtraVez
$200 200 It was like 200. And some change? It was it was like, I think it paid out like 205. No, it paid out like 105 each bet. But because I made two bets on the same thing. One free and one of my own cash. It would have been it would have been like, No 2209 Something that was weird.

12:36 – El Lechuga
And so the listeners he’s talking about 1000s. By the way, these are not? Heroes deep.

12:47 – Edgar OtraVez
Oh, speaking of which, I think we you and I went back and forth on the possibility of URI winning by submission in the fifth round and like a plus 1100. Have you put 100 bucks on this cat winning submission in the fifth round?

13:03 – El Lechuga
So that was for the fifth? Not just in general? Sure. on that.

13:07 – Edgar OtraVez
I think it was for the for the fifth round. By submission. I think it was 1100.

13:12 – El Lechuga
I mean, two years crap both to both fighters credit. They did. Their opportunity to win the fight was the opposite of what either one of us predicted. We both thought if your wins, it’s by knockout in those first two rounds, and Glover wins is going to be by submission. And those last three rounds of glory has a shot he cannot stay standing against theory. Yeah. And if you’re he’s gonna have a chance he can’t go to the ground. We’ll go over and it was literally the exact opposite.

13:42 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, we got it completely wrong. But I think

13:45 – El Lechuga
the whole world did. Yeah, yeah. Putting both their coaches I guarantee you neither coach thought this is where the hell was gonna go?

13:51 – Edgar OtraVez
Well, yeah. And I’m sure globally, that’s why global is planning till apart because he didn’t realize that he had a chance just on the feet, you know, and he wanted to go for the safe when going into submission. Where were URIs weakest,

14:03 – El Lechuga
lower, glorious failure was that he was so good at sticking to his game plan. Yeah, that’s a game plan he’s been utilizing for 20 years. That got him to be a champion and then it ended up shooting him in the back at the end.

14:16 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah. Yeah. And in theory strength of just kind of going with the flow and just letting shit happen. That’s that what that is what won him the fight. His own lack of a game plan was what won him the fight.

14:29 – El Lechuga
I don’t know if you notice the stats, but I think year he had three sweeps in that fight. Or he was Yeah, three. He was like 345 on sweeps or something. He also stuffed the majority of Glover’s takedown attempts. Interesting. I don’t I mean, these are new facets to yours game that I haven’t really seen him utilize before. Hmm, well,

14:49 – Edgar OtraVez
I you know, I don’t want to make fun of blower but that dude shoots like an old man. I saw him cool. Go after URI and he looked like You know, a grandpa chasing, you know his grandkids.

15:03 – El Lechuga
He likes a single leg takedown. Yeah. When it doesn’t work, it’s like he’s reaching. It’s kind of weird.

15:09 – Edgar OtraVez
It looks really bad. I was like, Oh dude, just stop just punches as you know, like, he could have just he just couldn’t beat him with some basic boxing match, just, you know, right, left, right left on day one, they would have one because this character

15:23 – El Lechuga
he did, he had them out. And then Glover fucked up.

15:26 – Edgar OtraVez
He fucked them up a couple of times. There was a, there was a couple of times where this guy was rock pretty good. And lean up on the cage and Glover could have finished it there. And again, you know, the mistake being he tried to take them down and finish them on the ground.

15:41 – El Lechuga
Your URI himself said, towards the end. He was bored and confused writing because he didn’t understand how Glover was just eating these shots. Yeah, he’s like, I was hitting him as hard as I’ve ever had anyone and he was just standing there.

15:56 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah. Well, I mean, to globe, his credit, his boxing is good enough. And, you know, he’s got some good defense. I mean, he wasn’t eating anything solid.

16:06 – El Lechuga
He rolls with the punches pretty well. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He

16:10 – Edgar OtraVez
wasn’t getting anything flush. Right. Sure. He the year he’s making contact shore it might be doing some damage to gluer. But not like it should you know,

16:20 – El Lechuga
the body shots did the most damage.

16:22 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Dude, man URI. He’s an interesting cat. He’s fun to watch. But I doubt he’ll hold onto that belt for very long.

16:34 – El Lechuga
We’ll see man, he I mean, he’s got a chin to those elbows. That Glover was dropped down. And the one that cut him completely open. Those are ambitious, dude.

16:45 – Edgar OtraVez
You could see right through that kid’s skull man.

16:47 – El Lechuga
Oh, I can’t believe that you’re stood up after that. That was fucking nuts. Oh,

16:53 – Edgar OtraVez
do it. And he was just just gushing blood. But yeah, like that opening was huge. One of the better game plans that gluer had was like when he got on top, you know, he would drop some of those elbows to open up that cut and make it hard for URI to see. But man, what a what an exciting fight again, the whole night was amazing. But

17:14 – El Lechuga
there was controversy that I don’t know if you saw that.

17:17 – Edgar OtraVez
Oh, yeah. What was the controversy? Uri tapped. Okay, so I seen him like, tap a couple times. Yeah. So it looked like tapping?

17:30 – El Lechuga
No, he did. But it was sarcastic tapping. I’ll explain it. So

17:37 – Edgar OtraVez
Oh, Jesus Christ.

17:39 – El Lechuga
So why don’t we do that? Exactly. So on more than one occasion, Uri sarcastically tapped to Glover’s jokes. And we, as the audience did not know he was being sarcastic. But uh, you know, there was a big controversy on Twitter and people were pointing it out posting the clips, and then the RAF. I think it was Mark Goddard. He came on Twitter, and he would respond, and he’s like, he was as he was tapping. He was talking to Clover, saying, Oh, that’s a good one are saying really sarcastic remarks. And then he would tap on his head as saying good job on that one. And he’s like, I told URI between rounds. That’s a very dangerous game you’re playing. However, so mark Goddard came out. He’s like, No, I mean, it looked like he tapped, but he was doing it sarcastically like gamesmanship. Yeah. But yeah,

18:32 – Edgar OtraVez
it looked like funny tapping too, because it wasn’t like it didn’t it wasn’t like a like a real tap. It was like his fingers just kind of flexing on his on on dudes arm. And I’m like, What? What is he doing it?

18:45 – El Lechuga
The one that’s the most egregious he does. It’s a top of clovers head. And it’s like a full open, open palm. And he it looks like he’s tapping on go over his head. But apparently, in that moment is when he was talking to Clover. It looked like weird

18:58 – Edgar OtraVez
tapping, but it’s still like, why are you doing that shit like this? Yeah, that is really stupid shit. You know? I know you’re trying to get into the guy’s head. I know you’re playing a game here. But if he’s got a choke on you or he’s doing something to you you’re in trouble you kind of stupid to fuck around and and you know, try to like, you know, show up that you’re not hurt.

19:22 – El Lechuga
How much would that piss you off? Oh, I

19:25 – Edgar OtraVez
would just squeeze harder.

19:27 – El Lechuga
Let’s say you’re already squeezing as hard as you can and you think you got this guy out and instead he’s talking to you and giving you a sarcastic tap and saying good job on this

19:35 – Edgar OtraVez
probably wouldn’t at least me like older me. It would just not faze me. I would just keep squeezing. If I go lower, yeah, I wouldn’t pay attention to it I in fact it would I it would be telling me that he is actually in trouble. And I’m close.

19:51 – El Lechuga
And so like in boxing when someone lands a really good shot and the guy tries to smile and play it off. It’s like oh, no, he got

19:57 – Edgar OtraVez
I got you. I got to you know there’s a good shot me Be you’re not out, you know, it was good. So you’re kind of hurt. You know, it’s the same kind of deal. I would, I would just squeeze harder, I would just hold on and keep squeezing, which is, you know, Glover tried to do. But you know, you get sweaty, there’s blood, you know, you get slippery. It’s kind of hard to hold on. Okay, like that. I don’t know what MMA is like, but no Gi is definitely a pain in the ass. It’s really hard to hold on to somebody like that. But you know, I saw that and I didn’t realize it became such a controversy.

20:28 – El Lechuga
Yeah. Yeah, it’s kind of died down. But for Saturday night Sunday, it was a thing trending on Twitter.

20:36 – Edgar OtraVez
Wow. Yeah, I wish I would have paid attention to that.

20:39 – El Lechuga
Yeah, it was just kind of a cycle back and forth the same thing over and over.

20:46 – Edgar OtraVez
So moving on. What do you think about the Valentina versus Tyla Santos Santos?

20:53 – El Lechuga
Yeah, as a Valentina fan that was hard to watch. But props to Taila, who cheat she had a great fight. The only thing that cost her the fight was she wasn’t aggressive enough when she had her on the ground, that at least to me, it felt like when she had Valentina on the ground, and Tyler was in a dominant position, she was happy having that position instead of trying to finish the fight.

21:19 – Edgar OtraVez
The way I interpreted was, and this is me just talking about my ass and knowing that she’s a blue belt, but in my head, I was thinking, if she just had like one more stripe on her blue belt, if he if she just had, like, you know, just a little bit more time on the mat. He and Valentina will last that fucking belt, sure to choke her out, she would have choked her out, she just needed just a little more time on the mat, just a little bit more time, just a little more knowledge a little more experience. She doesn’t even need to be a purple belt, from what it seems to be able to beat Valentina, Valentina. She’s good with the judo and that I thought would be enough to be strong on the ground. But obviously it’s not not against someone who has a good understanding of jujitsu. I think Santos wasn’t just happy on the ground. I think she was trying, but didn’t have the chops to finish. Okay, now I’m in agreement, my general like judgmental the fight. I think that Valentina lost that fight, I think, the way the way I pictured it in my head, Santos won the first round, it’s kind of a toss up, I kind of lean towards Santos for the second third is definitely another Santos around. And the rest of the night was Valentina. But Valentina being the champ and winning the last two rounds. I think she sold a fight.

22:51 – El Lechuga
You know what the crazy thing is. So if you had not seen the fight, and you just look at the fight stats, you would walk away thinking that not only did Valentina, you know when she dominated, because that is how big the chasm between the two was in terms of strikes, attempted strikes landed significant strides, significant strikes landed, balancing blew her away. Yeah. But that however, no, but if you watch the fight, and at the end of that, but even if, like at the end, I’m like I think balancing and that of winning that I don’t feel good about it. I don’t see how Valentina could feel good about that fight. Yeah, no, no, I think if they have a rematch, I think Tyler probably wins. I think just see like the stronger fighter.

23:34 – Edgar OtraVez
She’s a little longer. She she she uses a range. Well, I still don’t think she has the chops to beat her. Obviously, according to stats, she doesn’t have the chops to beat her on the feet. But she obviously has enough jujitsu to beat her on the ground, and that just kind of exposes a hole in Valentino’s game, which kind of just blows me away because Santos is not the first person with jujitsu to fight. Valentina.

24:03 – El Lechuga
And Valentino has fought people with better jujitsu. Yeah, and I think Santos maybe it’s just the first one that is has the size and the strength that those other fighters lacked.

24:14 – Edgar OtraVez
Oh, you know, there’s a good point because she’s Santos was like, like, sneaky, not sneaky. I don’t want to say sneaky because sneaky kind of implies that like a negative kind of spin on it. I just think she was just wildly just crafty. She pulled it to the ground. She had one of these really sweet takedowns where she kind of just dragged Valentino’s leg out and Valentina full bologna with her own leg and Valentina fell to the ground and then she just started just killing her and I thought, as as mad as it was making for my making me for my power lay. I was really impressed. I didn’t think that this fight would be as close as it was.

24:55 – El Lechuga
Yeah, so that was pretty shocking. Yeah, and both of us picked Valentin and went to an event that could be close. So at least it was entertaining in that aspect.

25:04 – Edgar OtraVez
Oh, for sure. And she and she had gotten her back and on more than one occasion. But you see, the thing that I think were totally started losing the fight was when she had to head but I think at the end of

25:19 – El Lechuga
that cost of the fight

25:20 – Edgar OtraVez
that costed the fight, you know, and I can see, she couldn’t and, you know, Valentina, very wisely started taking advantage of that left side.

25:31 – El Lechuga
Yeah, she opened up.

25:32 – Edgar OtraVez
Was it the left side or the right side? For some reason? I think it’s the right side.

25:36 – El Lechuga
I think maybe it was the right side now. I don’t know now I’m questioning it. Whatever side it was in Valentina, just start throwing strikes nonstop from that side.

25:43 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, yeah. And then it was just

25:47 – El Lechuga
she’s gonna have to have surgery by the way.

25:49 – Edgar OtraVez
No way. She

25:50 – El Lechuga
has a broken orbital bone.

25:52 – Edgar OtraVez
Fuck. Well, here’s the thing. She didn’t just head butter twice. I mean, once it was twice,

25:58 – El Lechuga
Yeah, it was twice, same spot, same spot. So

26:01 – Edgar OtraVez
her eye was swollen up. And so maybe she was just feeling a lot of pain.

26:06 – El Lechuga
And again, it was just in case the people didn’t see it. It was clearly an accidental headbutt. They both just happened to lead at the same time. What their heads when they went in, at least in my I thought I thought it looked accidental.

26:19 – Edgar OtraVez
I’m sure I’m sure you’re right. And it’s let me let me just put it this way. I didn’t even notice it. You know, okay. I was, I mean, I was like, on the edge of my seat for that fight. I was paying paying attention to every step every movement, and now I was sweating a fucking ton, you know, but, but yeah, dude, like, I didn’t even notice that head. But next thing you know, there was, you know, she had the giant swelling on her eye coming out into the fourth round. I’m like, What the fuck is going on? And then they did a replay and you see Oh, shit, there was a headbutt. Yeah. And that was kind of what slowed down. Talia was, you know, like, unstoppable train seemed like, I think if it wasn’t for the head, but I think the fourth and fifth round would have been similar to one in three and we would have seen the new champ.

27:13 – El Lechuga
How she needed it was one Valentina wasn’t going to finish her.

27:17 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Balance, you know, wasn’t going to finish her. Valentina was playing defense. Yeah, and a lot of ways like especially when she went to the ground because of that she had Valentino’s back the whole time. And Valentina was just smart enough and strong enough to keep from getting choked out with a rear naked choke because that’s what she was going for. And she was there was a it was really, really close. There was there was a couple of times where I was like, Oh, she’s got it. That’s it, you know, and it wasn’t, you know, I was.

27:46 – El Lechuga
Well, Valentina does not want any part of a rematch with Taila Santos by the way. I’m serious. Yeah, no and asked her what her next fight should be and stuff she was pitching. She wants to fight Miesha Tate and he should Tate Miesha. Tate. She says she wants like I think a catchweight fight with me should say and she’s like, that’s what the fans want. That’s what everyone wants to see also their shit. And it was a bad look for her. I don’t know if you caught her post fight press conference. But it was yeah, it was not the best look for Valentina.

28:18 – Edgar OtraVez
That’s weird. This is like interesting.

28:20 – El Lechuga
Of all the matchups to like, because we talked about it, like if she won what would be next and we’re like, oh, maybe Amanda Nunez or who beat Nunez? God. just embarrassing. Can’t remember now. Peña. Yeah, Peña. Julianna Peña. One of those two fights we were talking about maybe at a catchweight or she just goes up to 10 pounds and does it? I don’t know where she pulls out the transfer me should take

28:43 – Edgar OtraVez
what the fuck? Yeah. Misha teat? I don’t even know if we should take we’ll fight again.

28:49 – El Lechuga
Miesha Tate
just sitting in our living room like what?

28:53 – Edgar OtraVez
Like feeding her baby and she’s like, What the fuck? Someone’s calling me out. Yeah. She’s probably like, Hey, dude, hold my baby. Fuck it, you know, and she’s probably thinking like, that’ll be a money fight. You know? Like,

29:07 – El Lechuga
no, get the paycheck.

29:08 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah. Safe paycheck like, you know, she’ll she’ll go in. So dominate Misha, and you walk away with a paycheck. I don’t I first of all, I like Misha, I think she’s great. I don’t think she has the name that Garner’s any kind of calling out of you know, after a fantastic fight like that. But who knows? When did she she said this in the post fight interview or in the fight press conference? The press conference. Okay, so maybe by that time, she already knew that. Santos had a broken over the bowl, and they didn’t want to fight with her.

29:40 – El Lechuga
I don’t know. It’s possible, but I don’t know. I mean, in that case, she could have just said like, you know, when she gets healthy, we can do this or whatever, you know.

29:48 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah. But you don’t want to wait. You don’t want to sit around and wait, you know, because I mean, everybody’s got a ticking clock. You know, everybody knows that you only have so much before you need to retire. And the other thing too is you’re We all have like, you know, just energy and adrenaline and coming off and there’s so much attention and the other thing too is she broke a record she broke Rosie’s record for most wins, or whatever as a female champ. So yeah, title defenses. No, yeah. Okay, so there you go, like, Good for her. You know, that’s great. And

30:25 – El Lechuga
that I think she has all the rubies now. Right? Golden all the spaces. Yeah. So like she’s one short, I don’t remember.

30:32 – Edgar OtraVez
Yes. It’s like yeah, she needs she’s gonna need a new belt, you know, but I don’t know, man. Like, Tyler is going to be out for a while. Yeah, so that rematch is not happening anytime soon is going to be at least a year.

30:47 – El Lechuga
Yeah. Summertime by this time next year.

30:50 – Edgar OtraVez
Probably. Man, that’s too bad because she was so close. Yeah, you know, I hate it when that kind of stuff happens is Valentina. Is she the southpaw? I believe she’s the southpaw. So like, that kind of stuff happens. When you’re fighting orthodox versus assault ball. You have your feet and your head in the same kind of space. So movement and stuff like that will happen. You’re gonna get ahead, but so you got to be careful when that happens, but God dammit man, this toddler could have won that fight. I have such a hard time pronouncing that girl’s name Tyler. I want to say that yeah, yeah. But it’s not Talia. It’s Tyler. So anyway, Thalia. Thalia? You know the pop singer, the Mexican pop singer. But anyway, she could have won that fight, man, she she was so close.

31:45 – El Lechuga
Yeah, it was hers for the taking. Yeah,

31:47 – Edgar OtraVez
and then that head, but that’s, it’s too bad. It’s gonna be a while. And, you know, I really thought she had the cards stacked against her. And I think it’s pretty evident because even even outside of the resources that we were talking about in the previous podcast, she still had the judges against her too, because I mean, she doesn’t have the belt. You know? And I think that’s just something that happens with judging, too. Like, it’s like, you might have somebody in there was some weird. There was some weird scoring that night, too. But

32:20 – El Lechuga
oh, yeah, one of the judges in that fight had Valentina, you know, winning by three rounds. Yeah, I was like how dude.

32:26 – Edgar OtraVez
I was like, no, no, not even. So moving on to the Weili Zhang versus you want to join jet chick flight? Wow, three rounds. i Okay, so funny thing about this. So I told my wife, cuz I wanted to be able to, like, she can tell when I put money on stuff. Because then I get really nerdy. You know? Yeah, I get really nerdy. I was like, start cheering and, you know, I get really angry and, you know, so then. So I get really enthused, I’m like, um, I better tell her, I bet. Because she’s gonna know that I bet and she’s gonna be upset. So I told her upfront, and I say, okay, look, you know, put money on this stuff. And she’s like, well, what are the bets? And I will, you know, I did this thing. It’s called a parlay. You know, you didn’t do this, and these three fights, they have to win. And I put money on, you know, this fight and that fight, and then I put money on Weili to win in the first round via knockout, like a separate bet, you know? And she’s like, why did you do that? I’m like, because, you know, she could win, via knockout. Do you wanna has been off for two years? She’s gonna have some cage rust. Yeah. Meanwhile, Wiley has been fighting, you know, and she’s probably getting better. She’s probably excited for this fight. So and she’s fighting in Singapore, there’s going to be a huge Asian population, cheering this girl on. Like, she can’t lose. She might even be there in the first round. And she’s like, she’s not gonna win the first round. She’s gonna win the second. I’m like, what? And she’s like, Yeah, she’s gonna win in the second. And I was like, okay, so I sat there. I was like, I think I have permission to go place another bet. And not only that, but like she had. She had the feeling, you know, I was like, you know, I was like, What do I do? So I went and I have more of those free bets. I took a free bet, put 25 bucks on Weili a win in the second round. It paid plus 1100 I got 275, bro. Yeah.

34:43 – El Lechuga
That’s crazy. She called him in. Yeah, she should be doing this podcast.

34:50 – Edgar OtraVez
She only knows Weili. She only knows anything because she knew enough. Yeah, she knew enough. I was just like, how did you? I looked over her when she knocked her out. You know, I looked over there and I was so What the fuck? And she just gave me one of those looks like you see?

35:04 – El Lechuga
What’s her cut?

35:06 – Edgar OtraVez
You just gave her 100 bucks.

She asked me for some cash, like, you know, it’s funny because today she was like, I’m gonna be at the park with kids or you know, we’re gonna be at the pool, blah, blah, you know? And she’s like, you know, can you give me some money for, you know, for hamburgers and stuff? And I was like, All right. So I went and got 100 bucks and gave it to her. And I said here, you know, for the bet. And she’s like, okay, yeah. And she was like, whatever goes, I mean, she had the hunch. Yeah. But I put the money down. I did all the legwork. I don’t know. Yeah. She’s gonna get more in the end anyway.

35:47 – El Lechuga
I mean, that’s how it works, man. Yeah, but mine is yours.

35:50 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, and what’s. What’s hers is hers.

35:53 – El Lechuga
That’s secret to a happy marriage, folks.

35:58 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, just submit. But anyway, what a fantastic fight short fight ended in the second round. Yeah. What are your thoughts on that fight?

36:12 – El Lechuga
We talked about how when you have a fight of the magnitude of that first fight, such a perfect fight. Rarely does the sequel live up to it, right. Yeah, like, man, it’s probably gonna be a dud. Yeah, but that first round was really living up to it. I’m like, Oh my God. They’re fucking doing it again. Crazy.

36:32 – Edgar OtraVez
Yes, it was. It was like all over again. It’s like they picked up right from where they left. Yeah, it

36:38 – El Lechuga
was round six of that first fight.

36:40 – Edgar OtraVez
Exactly. I was, uh, I was gonna say the same damn damn thing is round six. I was like, motherfuckers did you guys do you know, it’s been two years like you fucking you just picking up right from like, boom. I was. I was. I was sitting I was like, I can’t believe they’re doing it again. I can’t believe they’re doing it again. It just Oh, dude. I was so

like, that was the fight I was looking forward to. And it was funny because the commentator said, Oh, I feel like this is the main event right? Yeah, yeah, Singapore was going nuts. Do their fight was so good.

37:09 – El Lechuga
And then round two, again, right where they left off. And then Weili Weili Weili is a wildly I keep I back and forth.

37:24 – Edgar OtraVez
I call her Wei Li and I butchered her last name. John Zhang. Er, yeah.

37:28 – El Lechuga
Weili has like a career defining signature knockout like that Knockout is going to be an every one of her highlight reels from now until the end of time. Yeah. And I was rooting for her. I was rooting for Weili. So I was happy. But same time, I was bawling. I’m like, talk. Like I wanted another. I wanted three rounds. I wanted I wanted this to go into the third round. Yeah,

37:49 – Edgar OtraVez
but not me. I was glad it ended in the second.

37:53 – El Lechuga
Yeah, you you had 275 reasons why. Yeah,

37:56 – Edgar OtraVez
exactly. The wife was like, so I look over to my wife. And you know, because yeah, what’s your name gets face planted she face planted. After that fit, spinning backfist she got hit with the spinning backfist she face planted. And I look over my wife. I’m like, holy shit. And you know, when I look over to her, like all amaze, and she just looked at me like she knew all along. She’s like, I see. I told her she didn’t say anything. The whole room was going nuts, by the way. And, and I look over to her and she just did one of those like, you see? And I was like, holy shit. You know? Like, how did she you know, how does she know? Every now and then she does something crazy. I think she’s psychic, but whatever. But but she like called it man. And I was like, holy shit. Thank God she called it because otherwise, otherwise I wouldn’t want I wouldn’t have gotten any money. I would have been noted in

38:47 – El Lechuga
a bad night. That would have been real. So one of the only people I did not enjoy that.

38:54 – Edgar OtraVez
Everybody was losing their mind in that room. Dude, everybody like we had people over. I presented the belt by the way. Yeah, I posted on Instagram. And I gave the woman who won that the challenge the belt. We called it the 30 day legend challenge. It was something that we did with the hustle fitness. And I went and gave her the belt and she wore that fucking thing all night. You know, and but I wanted to make sure she had the belt before the women started fighting. Yeah, and she wore that thing a whole night and yeah, the women in the room lost their minds dude fucking like, first of all, I watched the fight again because I wanted to talk about the fight technically. I couldn’t just watch the fight, like watch the fight and take notes. I just I watched it again as a fan. Like I just lost it. Like I didn’t take any notes. Like I didn’t do anything where I was like, Oh, she did this and that. No, it was just like, there is just too crazy. It was just too awesome. But one thing I think I noticed that Wiley did a little different than the last time was she did take advantage of have taken her down to the ground right? That was something new that I haven’t seen her do before. You can thank your best friend by the way for that. Oh, fucking fucking fucking Cejudo.

40:14 – El Lechuga
that’s all Hey, man. Yeah, okay.

Bad people can sometimes create beautiful things,

40:23 – Edgar OtraVez
dude. Yeah, that was a weird thing because I didn’t even know that he was part of that training camp or helping her with that stuff because I heard in the post fight press conference that Cejudo was helping her with takedowns or

40:38 – El Lechuga
whatever. And I was like, like a year. You worked with her for like a year.

40:41 – Edgar OtraVez
Holy shit, man, that guy is everywhere. He’s messing around with Tyson’s peekaboo video. He’s over here helping Weili, I’m like, What are this motherfucker, you know. So I did see a little more of that, which was interesting. But you know, Jana was smart and able to get off the ground. She has always been good about that. But then like in the second round, the most interesting part, the part where that led up to the knockout what happened was Weili through a psychic because you want it was coming in through a psychic to create distance psychics and push kicks, sidekicks, the tips, the push kicks, all those kicks, they’re there to stop incoming fighters. So you do that to create distance to keep people away, or to stop them from charging. And she saw her coming in, she threw the sidekick. But as she threw it, she was like, off center a little too much. It was either that or you wanna saw it coming. And you want to twist, Neil turned her body a little bit. So the sidekick, you wanna but slit off her side. So you want to get a weird angle and look like you wanna was going to try to take off. But at that point, the sidekick failed. And you’re in this position. So when this happens, and you throw something like a sidekick or a spinning sidekick or a spinning kick, you get stuck in this position where you have your back to the person. Yeah, there’s only one thing you can really do. And that’s, you know, another spin tech technique. She’s too close for another spin kick. So she couldn’t, you know, switch and throw a spinning sidekick with the right leg. So she threw a spinning backfist. So she threw the spinning back fist. And when she threw it, she you can even tell as she turned her head she saw that she was too close. And so she tried to like lean back and cocked the arm a little bit, but caught her with the forearm anyway. And the reason she got knocked out was because as she threw that arm around she and the because of the angle Joanna was in it caught like the back of her head a little bit, you know, right behind the year. Boom, knocked right out she faced planted. And that’s in the night. I was like, wow, you know, it was it was not a pretty spinning backfist I’ve seen prettier spinning spinning backfist. But I was elated to see a spinning back fist and a knock off for once because I as a kid, you know, practicing kickboxing. spinning backfist was my favorite thing to do. I’d throw spinning backfist and I’ve knocked people out with spinning back fist. Oh, yeah. spinning backfist is a nasty fucking Yeah, you know, technique. So as you get so much torque into it. Yeah. And if you catch it, right, it’s beautiful. But usually people see it coming. You know, if you as soon as you know, especially with kickboxing, as soon as you see the person’s back, you know, spinning technique is coming. So you know, you should defend it. One thing I like to do with the spinning backfist is I put the person up the up against the cage through a few body shots, make them go, I shouldn’t say cage. Yeah, I mean the ring, but you put him up against the ropes. You hit him a couple of times on one side, they have no choice but to go into the other direction. That’s a setup. So when they go to the other direction, you spin, and you hit them and they run into the backfist. That was not the case. Here it was she was in the center of the ring. And Weili he was running up towards the cage, she was running out of room and even tried to lean back like I say, cocked the arm a little bit just as she hit her God Damn, it was cool. It was just so cool, man. Signature knockout man. Oh, dude, it’s awesome. I think it would have been cooler if she would have caught her with an elbow. You know, it would have looked a lot nicer, a lot cooler. But you know, whatever. It’s a knockout. And then the most amazing technique of the night was seeing Weili do a handless cartwheel. You know,

44:40 – El Lechuga
so freak athlete.

44:41 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, dude. And then yeah, I was like, Wow, what an amazing night to that fucking fucking fight was just

44:49 – El Lechuga
At the end of the first round. How are you feeling? How confident were you feeling?

44:54 – Edgar OtraVez
In my bets are in Weili. On Weili. I felt like she was gonna win. But I don’t know if I was like drunk on the fighting, you know? Yeah. Or if it was like, a real judgment, but like, I felt like she won that first round.

45:13 – El Lechuga
I did too. And I didn’t have any money on it. Just as I mean, I was rooting for Weili. But as unbiased as I could be, I had her winning. And I felt like in that first fight, you can make the argument Juwanna had better technique. And Weili was just a stronger fighter, so her hits were creating more damage, and that’s what ended up winning in the fight. This fight, I felt like Wiley’s technique has caught up to Joanna Joanna, and she’s even stronger, like physically than she was two years ago. And I don’t know how as you on I was ever going to have an answer to that.

45:53 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, and then the new mixture of techniques that she wasn’t like she was showing in the fight where she was taking her down and stuff that was exciting. And it wasn’t like a like a boring takedown either. It was fun. It was she was she made the whole the whole fight as short as it was was exciting. And I was even down that there wasn’t five rounds, it didn’t matter. You know, like it wasn’t gonna last five rounds.

46:19 – El Lechuga
I think this is the best version of Weili we have ever seen. Yeah, so not just not just physically and in the ring mentally to I don’t know if you saw like in the lead up to the fight. So unlike the first time they fought did you want to really dig it into Weili’s head at one point in the press conference? Weili and shout out to her just shut up? Yeah, because you wanna because you want to would not stop talking shit we’ve seen him against the grows too with Weili where thug Rosa said like anti communist stuff or whatever anti socialism shit. Yeah. That really irked and bothered Weili. This time around anytime Joanna try to like snarl at her or say anything like that Weili responded with you look with you look beautiful today. She would just complimented and smile and that was it. And then it would completely disarm. Joanna. You can even see it in her face like thank you. And it was like a heartfelt to it was heartfelt from Weili, you look beautiful. Or she just said like, Yeah, I can’t wait to fight or whatever, stuff like that. So it’s clear like mentally she’s also now where she needs to be to be a champion.

47:25 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, I think the other thing too, is she’s gonna fight Carla next, right? Yeah. I don’t think Carla can beat her. I do. Carlos is gonna lose that belt right away.

47:38 – El Lechuga
I don’t want to I don’t want to jinx it. You know? Yeah. If we’re looking at the fighters on paper, I don’t know how the hell Carla Esparza wins that fight? Hell no. I was like, so physically strong. On the ground. It was ridiculous. Yeah,

47:51 – Edgar OtraVez
Carlos strongest fuck too, though. But she is obviously the tactic for Carla to use would be to take her down. But she’s gonna eat a bunch of fucking punches. And she’s gonna end up looking like an alien to like, you know, like, fuck, you know, as if she

48:07 – El Lechuga
can keep down this original wildly. She looked very very capable on the ground. Yeah.

48:13 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, that’s the other thing. She probably will get right up. I’m hoping. I don’t know. But I mean, obviously, she’s got a she’s gotta get she’s gonna get a shot at the title they she has to. And that belt is going to be hers. I would not bet against Wally. No, in that fight for sure.

48:29 – El Lechuga
Hopefully they do it soon. I mean, Wiley barely took any damage. We saw it. Carla didn’t take any damage and her fight. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there will fight. I hopefully, you know, wily wins. And then thug rose can get everything sorted out that she’s got going on. And we get a rematch of this version of Wiley against like, rose at some point.

48:51 – Edgar OtraVez
Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that would be Yeah. And it would be the grows Wally two or three. I’m sorry, three.

48:59 – El Lechuga
Yeah, but who else is there there at the top of this division? It was just for women pretty much that you care about? Yeah. And now one of them is gone. Yeah, and while he’s gonna fight it, Carla and Doug roses out for who knows how long dealing with her own stuff. So

49:14 – Edgar OtraVez
I don’t know if rose Can I mean I like rose. But I She’s just too shaky of a champion. Yeah. And what kind of champion are we going to get or what kind of fighter are we going to get when she matches up? We Wally again, you know, I don’t know. But I don’t

49:30 – El Lechuga
know. Wiley? I don’t know if you’ve read but she’s moving to the US. She’s going to take up residency in Arizona full time. Oh, wow. Yeah. So that also cut down on like the jetlag and travel time and stuff she had to deal with before those other fights, so we could see a very Believe it or not an even more improved version of Wiley next time.

49:51 – Edgar OtraVez
That’s awesome, dude. She put it out live with with fucking what’s the Cejudo or something.

49:58 – El Lechuga
Like a reality show?

50:00 – Edgar OtraVez
It’s like they’re roommates and shit. It’s like Three’s Company with fighters.

50:04 – El Lechuga
Christ. Oh my god. He’s the only guy that would make me not root for Weili anymore. I imagine is like wily with Henry Cejudo and Davidson Figueiredo. Together. That’s the show.

50:20 – Edgar OtraVez
Oh, Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ

50:23 – El Lechuga
did not speak that into existence by the way.

50:28 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, there’s somebody at ESPN right now. It’s just like, that’s a great idea. Yeah, let’s get Three’s Company Cejudo. Cejudo is our new jack tripper? Yeah. Which was a cringy show, by the way, too, especially if you look at it from today’s eyes,

50:44 – El Lechuga
by the way, and how I got made today.

50:46 – Edgar OtraVez
I believe you get Cejudo and ESPN money. Who knows?

50:50 – El Lechuga
You know, the only way that gets made is if you flip it around. And it’s one girl with two guys and the two guys are like bimbos, you know, kind of a flip of what it was supposed to be back then with like, yeah, yeah, yeah, saying that the two women the two actresses in that show are bimbos, but that’s how the show wanted to portray them.

51:08 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, no. Well, they weren’t actually they were. They were they were the good girls. And Jack was actually the bimbo.

51:16 – El Lechuga
Yeah, he was like the sweaty one.

51:18 – Edgar OtraVez
He was a sweaty one because he always had like different girls and stuff.

51:21 – El Lechuga
Yeah, they were like, innocent and didn’t know and then pick up on his innuendos and stuff.

51:25 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, that show was so bad, dude. It was so fucking bad.

51:30 – El Lechuga
Like everyone loved it, though. My mom loved it. Yeah,

51:33 – Edgar OtraVez
I loved it. I was a kid. I loved it. I was like, Oh, that’s funny. I know. He’s talking about but yeah.

51:40 – El Lechuga
Like, creepy landlord guy would show up, right?

51:42 – Edgar OtraVez
Oh, dude, and the bad jokes that he would make?

51:46 – El Lechuga
Oh, yeah, cuz Jack had to pretend to be gay. Yeah, so the landlord to let him live there. Again, none of that can be made in a show today. Yeah, none of

51:54 – Edgar OtraVez
it would make any sense either. Like, why would you? Why would that be a problem? Yeah, like, you know, dude, living with girls. So what? So what you know? Anyway, what do you think about you want to leave in the gloves in the ring.

52:08 – El Lechuga
I didn’t expect her to retire. But as soon as the fire was over, I saw her taking off her gloves on like, Oh, she’s going to retire. Oh, wow. Yeah, it’s the only time you see fighters do that. Pretty much. It was the same thing with Khabib. When he retired, I saw him struggling so much to get the gloves off. I thought either he hurt his hand at some point, or he might retire. And then he did. And I was so shocked. But yeah, when I saw when I saw, Your Honor, she was immediately taking your gloves off.

52:36 – Edgar OtraVez
I didn’t see that coming. And the when she put them on the ground. Maybe it was because I was like talking to everybody in the room. But when I saw like, I saw her put the gloves on the ground. I’m like, Oh, shit, you know, because I didn’t really listen to what she was saying. Because the other thing too was like, why are they interviewing her? Yeah, she just got knocked out. It became a thing not to interview, the people get knocked out in a fight. And they’re interviewing her. And I’m like, I thought that was poor taste.

53:01 – El Lechuga
And it wasn’t a co main either or anything. So yeah, never interview the loser. And one of these little work cards are low, lower fighters on the main card.

53:09 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah. So I was I was like, what’s going on? You know, so I did find it interesting. But also I just took it like, oh, you know, everybody was looking forward to this fight. Of course, they want to hear what she what she has to say. Right. And so then she retires. And I’m like, That’s too bad.

53:27 – El Lechuga
And we talked about it remember whether or not she would still have it. She would still have that desire that motivation, and how she would feel when she first feels that power coming back from John from Wally. Yeah. And I think maybe that’s kind of what you went through in your head like, yeah, this. I don’t have anything for this anymore. Yeah.

53:47 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah. I think she wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. And catch that last fight. We’ll go out on a win. And I think that’s what she wanted to do. And she knew that Wally would be a fantastic fight to go out on. Win or lose, and she was right. And God damn it, man. That’s awesome. Like, I hate like, I wasn’t a huge fan of Jana mostly because of her like, you know, he’ll character that she likes to take on. Yeah, but man, that was that was a dope way to go. Like, seriously as a fighter, you know, like for her to go out like that. Like, she knew this was gonna be a tough fight. She didn’t take an easy fight. She took one of the most memorable fights she could get. And she went out on deck and that fight could win or lose. That was fucking courageous. That’s awesome. Like, there’s no, she must have thought that there’s a good chance that she could lose, you know? But fuck, man, what a good way to go out. I mean, it’s not I’m sure it’s not the way she wanted to go out but that’s awesome man. I was afraid after seeing that I was afraid that Glover would would retire to because

55:01 – El Lechuga
the opposite. Yeah. No, no retiring.

55:08 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, no, I mean, yeah. But down, man, so I’m looking forward to whatever Wally does next. I know so, you know, whoever she fights next, whether it’s Carla or if they put somebody in front of her, you know, before Carla, she’s gonna get that bottle ventually Oh, yeah. You know,

55:27 – El Lechuga
barring any injury, I expect it to be Carla and probably something as early as maybe September.

55:32 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like, I don’t think I don’t think Dana would give rose a rematch with Karla. Ahead of that.

55:45 – El Lechuga
No, I didn’t. I already said that. The winner of this fight was going to get the shot at Carla. Yeah,

55:51 – Edgar OtraVez
that makes sense. Because he knows that this would be exciting. And whoever comes out of this fight is gonna go fight Carla.

55:59 – El Lechuga
Around to that fight was worked out. Doug Rose was Carlos as far as I was one of the worst fights of all time. Yeah. complete opposite of what we just got to witness.

56:08 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah. And so Dana is in the right and thinking that there’s no way he’ll give rose another chance to fight. Oh, we’re looking backward by that. Nobody. Nobody he’s gonna sick. He’s gonna sick. Really? Poor Carla. And Wally is gonna just like a pitbull grab on her and just shake her. You know?

It’s gonna be fucking awesome. It’s gonna be a massacre. That’s gonna be awesome.

56:35 – El Lechuga
I can’t wait, man.

56:36 – Edgar OtraVez
It can’t wait.

56:37 – Edgar OtraVez
So, moving on. I want to talk about the last two fights are the first two fights I should say. Yeah. There was Andre phi phi phi Lau. The Portuguese Yalow. The ILO There you go. Thank you. Versus Jake Matthews. You I remember you telling me that and Andre had really good. Yeah, boxing. And so I was surprised to see how Jake Matthews just very easily took care of

57:07 – El Lechuga
dude, I don’t think I’ve ever missed on a fight as bad as I missed on this. Jesus Christ. Man. I felt so stupid.

57:15 – Edgar OtraVez
Not do like Andre tried. He tried. He tried to take off.

57:20 – El Lechuga
This was the I’ve never seen Jake Matthews fight like this before. I had never watched his fights. I’ve seen clips of him. And even in his own highlight clips. He’s not doing the shit he did in that fight. Yeah, that was crazy.

57:34 – Edgar OtraVez
He put his hands together really well. And the way he finished him with all those combos. Yeah, it was it was so nice man. He went Swati had bah bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. And then boom. Andre was done.

57:49 – El Lechuga
It was impressive when? Yeah,

57:51 – Edgar OtraVez
I believe it was the second round, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, man. What, uh, what? Uh, that was, I mean, that was a good fight. And then Jake della Mandela versus Ramazan? iMiEV. That was a cool fight to Amin try to get a choke at one point. And Jack DOM and della just Amanda Linna. What how you say is the mandolin on? Yeah, yeah. He just got up and started wailing on him, but hit him with a body shot and drugged them. I was like, wow, and that was in the first round.

58:30 – El Lechuga
Through Jack is an exciting fighter man. I was at least write about this one. I guess I had Jack winning by a knockout but not that early. I did not expect it to happen that early.

58:41 – Edgar OtraVez
Who I don’t know what was in the air in Singapore. I don’t know what they put in their water. Whatever is there is fucking awesome. It because that that that whole fucking night was amazing. Just fucking amazing. Just exciting fight. It was a great fucking card. And so like, remember you one of the ways we ended the last podcast is like, Oh, well, you know, we’ll see how this works out. It might be a snooze fest. You know, who knows? And if it is we’re not going to do a you know, a recap of it, you know? Yeah. And, man so after after we leave I’m like we’re doing we’re doing a recap. I don’t give a fuck about the rest of the now. We’re doing a recap at least the first three fights you know, now the whole fucking car was amazing.

59:30 – El Lechuga
Do the URI Prohaska versa. Glover to share as one of the best fights I think I’ve ever seen. Yeah, that fight of the year easily for me so far. One of the best fights and several years, I’d say.

59:43 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah. And I thought I thought the way Lee would be that again. Yeah, we are shaping up that way. Yeah. Well, until she knocked her out. Yeah. Wow. And yeah, and I was on the edge of my seat for that global fight. Like because I mean, he got so cool. those. And I don’t know if I told you I don’t know if I mentioned that before, but I already forgot. But I had another side bet that I put, I’ll just fucking throw inside bets. And I can tell ya, I got another free bet put 25 to win on on blower via submission not any round just didn’t matter what round just be a submission. That was, that was one of the prophets I had.

Yeah. So like, every time he grabbed on like, it’s called me, I’m gonna give him a cricket and you’re gonna get another 200 bucks or whatever it was. And know,

if, if all my bits would have worked out in the best way possible, like, it would have gotten like, I don’t know, something like 600 700 bucks, you know, for the night, you know? And it was it was all for under $40. Because I only because I also used a bunch of like, the free money they gave me I think, three, three free bets, and I placed a bunch of little bets. But like if, if at all would have worked out, I would have walked away with 700 bucks. About probably less but you know,

1:01:13 – El Lechuga
would have been sweet. But I mean, you You still got to land on something. So

1:01:17 – Edgar OtraVez
yeah, 275 bucks is nothing to sneeze it.

1:01:19 – El Lechuga
No, no, it’s not.

1:01:21 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah,

1:01:22 – El Lechuga
you got the missus to feel like she was on top of the world. So

1:01:26 – Edgar OtraVez
yeah, once again, she was right. And she likes to feel like she’s right.

1:01:29 – El Lechuga
She likes to be hearing about that for a while.

1:01:33 – Edgar OtraVez
It’s all right. We’ll be right about something else. And then I’ll hear about that. So this will be all old news in about an hour.

1:01:40 – El Lechuga
Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah. But,

1:01:43 – Edgar OtraVez
but yeah, man. So we didn’t do any research on upcoming fights. But

1:01:48 – El Lechuga
I don’t know. Do you want me to give you a couple of fights to look forward to? Sure.

1:01:52 – Edgar OtraVez
I would love to see what you got.

1:01:54 – El Lechuga
Yeah. So for UFC 276, which is on Fourth of July weekend. It’s a pretty good card. Actually. At first, I wasn’t looking forward to this card. And then now that I like I looked at it better. I’m like, Oh, Jesus, sorry, this is gonna be good. Can’t wait to do some research on this one. So the top fight on the card is actually might be the least exciting is going to be out of Sanya versus Jared Cannoneer. Okay. I like Jared Canyon year, I just don’t think he’s got much of a shot. So I’ll look into it some more, you know, break it down a bit better. But just off the top my head from what I’ve seen from Jared Cannoneer. It’s nothing new that Israel has not faced before. So that fight, it’ll be exciting, because it’s not a sign your fight is by it’s gonna be exciting. But then you got the rematch of volkanovski versus Max Holloway. Who? Yeah, that should be a good one, man. Yeah, Max is well rested. So let’s see if you bring something new to the table.

1:02:54 – Edgar OtraVez
We’ll see. We’ll see. It’s just, uh, you know, volkanovski is just such a beast, man. He’s just such a monster. And you know, I like Holloway. But he’s he’s slick. You know, Addison. He’s just, I mean, Sonya Holloway is slick. He’s just, you know, he’s so he’s so good with his hands and striking. And he’s just cool, right?

1:03:13 – El Lechuga
It’s kind of it’s kind of like join versus Weili, where volkanovski is Weili? Well, yeah, all that power. And Holloway will be Dyna with the amazing technique and able to just kind of throw your hands and wear you down.

1:03:27 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, yeah. And he’s got a giant gas tank. Yeah. So this will volkanovski So yeah, it does. These guys can just be throwing leather all night again. Then

1:03:38 – El Lechuga
after two before that fight, you’re gonna have Shawn Strickland versus Alex Perea so I don’t know if you remember by Alex Perea is former World kickboxing champ. Like obviously the only guy that’s knocked out out of Sanya. Okay, yeah, knock them out fucking cold.

1:03:54 – Edgar OtraVez
I remember talking about this in the in one of our other podcasts. Yeah,

1:03:58 – El Lechuga
so this is a big step up in competition for him when it comes to MMA. He’s fighting Shawn Strickland. That’s the guy that talks an absurd amount of shit. He’s kind of like a Kobe Covington. Yeah, he’s going out of his way to get canceled and oh no never does. So it gets even more egregious and insulting. Now. That should be good right honestly. So it’ll be very interesting if Alex Pereira wins because I he might get the title shot man it’s kind of nuts because he’s not ranked right now but

1:04:35 – Edgar OtraVez
he’s gonna get a title so I don’t know man.

1:04:39 – El Lechuga
The UFC is really trying to build this guy up. So yeah, maybe he won’t. Maybe he’ll be one fight away at that point. That Shawn Strickland wins he’ll probably get a title shot. No probably be the next person to face out of Sonya

1:04:52 – Edgar OtraVez
because I would it because if Frey is not ranked, I think this fight would at least get them ranked and then set them up for one more fight before We can fight the champ

1:05:02 – El Lechuga
in a logical world but

1:05:04 – Edgar OtraVez
yeah, you’re right.

1:05:08 – El Lechuga
You’re gonna fight man. You want to see him fight Whitaker again?

1:05:11 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, no, you’re right. You’re right. You’re right. You’re right. Yeah. So

1:05:14 – El Lechuga
you’re gonna fight. What’s his face? vettori? No, he beat him pretty easy. Is he going to fight Costco the juiced up Brazilian guy that can’t make wait like he’s running out of people to fight so Oh, that’s

1:05:27 – Edgar OtraVez
crazy. Man. This this. That’s a very interesting place. That MMA or at least UFC is in where it’s like, once you know you get you get a champ they kind of just run through the roster. And then you get to this place where it’s like, oh, who they’re gonna fight now, like the buddy left, you know, like,

1:05:49 – El Lechuga
and the problem without a sign is we already saw he can’t move up at that, that gap in size turned out to be a bit too much for him. Unless he takes a substantial amount of time off and really builds up and bulks correctly. Then maybe he can move up in weight class. But for now, it doesn’t seem like that’s the answer either.

1:06:08 – Edgar OtraVez
That I don’t think He’s big enough. Right? He I mean, there’s slender. Yeah, well, I like he doesn’t have the shoulders. Yeah, exactly. Or the or the hips.

1:06:17 – El Lechuga
He’s a thin dude. Yeah.

1:06:21 – Edgar OtraVez
But it’s too bad.

1:06:24 – El Lechuga
And then one more fight on the card that I saved for last dimension because it’s gonna get you really get your juices going. Lauren Murphy versus Misha Tate. Why she’s still fighting? I mean, maybe that call out was it so random after all,

1:06:46 – Edgar OtraVez
I mean, I like Meisha, don’t get me wrong, but you know how I feel about me. She I think she’s awesome. I just think she, she, she doesn’t need the fight anymore. You know, she disagrees, obviously. And I’m not Meisha, his manager or anybody important to her. So it’s not like she’s gonna listen to anything I have to say. But I think she, I think she’s, she’s a pretty lady. People like looking at her, she can be a very successful, you know, newscaster or commentator or whatever, for the UFC. I mean, she’s shown talent for that. I would just lean into that. She’s had an amazing career. I just hate seeing fighters take unnecessary damage or continue on too far into their career. We’ve seen it with other fighters. I’ve seen it in person. I hate seeing it. I’m not a fan of it. It’s an it’s, you know, I’ve seen guys in the gym. That is still spar. And I’m like, Dude, why are you sparring? Why are you letting that guy had to for 25 bucks an hour or whatever? You know? Yeah. Like, that’s, you know, like, your, your to old for that. And that guy, he’s gonna go back to his office and punch keys and never do anything with the with the stuff that you’re you’re showing him, you know? It’s like I see that with with, with layman, boxers. And fighters. I saw that when I was a kid. I hate seeing it. And I don’t like seeing it and professional fighters when they go on too far. I think Meisha still has all her, you know, all her facilities all she’s all you know, she’s still all there. She seems very smart. And I think she has a really good career ahead of her. As a newscaster, she’s just stick to that. You know, I’m not saying that she’s not talented. I think she’s very talented. But I think I think the division has moved on past her skills. And she’s just gonna get kicked around.

1:08:43 – El Lechuga
Well, that’s one way to get people hyped for the fight. Sorry. Next time for us to break it down further. One last bite on there. Shawn O’Malley also has a fight so

1:08:58 – Edgar OtraVez
Oh, Yeah. He’s a wacky guy.

1:09:01 – El Lechuga
Yeah. With the rainbow hair. kind of exciting.

1:09:04 – Edgar OtraVez
He’s a he’s like an influencer now too. Yeah, exactly.

1:09:07 – El Lechuga
You know, a guy that yeah, I

1:09:09 – Edgar OtraVez
follow him a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

1:09:12 – El Lechuga
So down. Pedro. Munoz sounds familiar, but I don’t know if I actually know. He’s pretty good. Yeah, he’s up there when it comes to the people that Sean O’Malley has fought. So I think pretty much Pedro and Cheeto Vera are the two best guys now that he has fought so and he lost again a sheet of era so let’s see how he does against pager. Munoz

1:09:37 – Edgar OtraVez
didn’t didn’t cheat Overo fight recently.

1:09:42 – El Lechuga
Yes. I don’t know. I don’t remember how recently it was though. Yeah. Oh, anyway, it was he had a fight canceled to I think due to injury.

1:09:52 – Edgar OtraVez
Now he’s got an interesting story. Cheeto Vera Cheeto Vera has a daughter who didn’t have like face muscles or something or like think that there was there was problems like originally when he fought in the UFC and tough because he was one of those tough recruits. One of his stories was that his daughter didn’t have certain muscles attached to her face so that she can smile, so she couldn’t smile. Yeah, so one of the driving forces of for him to fight and be successful was to get the surgeries needed for her daughter to be able to smile.

1:10:28 – El Lechuga
She was a cool dude, he does some of the Spanish broadcasting too, for the UFC.

1:10:32 – Edgar OtraVez
My understanding is that he’s pretty good. Ya know, like he does does he doesn’t do analysis to like, he’s good at that. Yeah. So like, I always find those cats that that do the analysis. Like those guys are smart. Right? So I feel like damn, these guys are dangerous. You know, like, if like never mind the muscles. Never mind all the knowledge that you might have in terms of techniques all this shit you can do. If you could put a strategy together to take a person apart. That’s fucking awesome dude like. And so like when when I hear like someone like Cheeto Vera, or one of these other analysis guys, you know, DC those out a little bit? What’s the name of the British guy? Michael Bisping. Now Michael Bisping, the other guy the guy used to practice with him here and there.

1:11:22 – El Lechuga
Oh, fuck, he got fired by the UFC to

1:11:26 – Edgar OtraVez
really know he was doing analysis, wasn’t he? Yeah, and then he got

1:11:29 – El Lechuga
fired. At least 14 of the same guy. The guy I was talking about the got fired is he’s got like the black slicked back hair. Dan Hardy. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

1:11:43 – Edgar OtraVez
So Dan Hardy, I love hearing his analysis. Like when he talks about all the different things and the path to victory and all that shit. Fucking eat it all up.

1:11:53 – El Lechuga
All right, no, dude. Yeah, I was talking about Dan Hardy.

1:11:55 – Edgar OtraVez
Oh, yeah. Dan Hardy got fired.

1:11:57 – El Lechuga
He got fired by the UFC.

1:11:58 – Edgar OtraVez
What he did analysis, he did analysis for Glover Teixeira vs Prochazka Petroski.

1:12:04 – El Lechuga
Oh, so maybe they brought him back then?

1:12:06 – Edgar OtraVez
I don’t know. I saw it on YouTube. I don’t know if he did it for the UFC. So no, no, yeah, he’s doing it on his own. So maybe he’s doing it on his own. And I thought like I found it. I thought it was great.

And I thought it was a UFC analysis.

1:12:19 – El Lechuga
No yeah, he got fired by the UFC because he got an argument with one of the staffers. Oh, really? Yes. Yeah. I guess he’d been butting heads with a bunch of people behind the scenes. I mean, to his credit, Dan Hart. He’s very big on fighters rights and sticking up providers and make sure they’re treated right. So for the most part, I think we would agree with him and these arguments. It’s just the way he was going about it was deemed to be unprofessional. So they let him go. Yeah, that which I could also see.

1:12:49 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, you gotta you gotta be careful, man. You got to play the game. He got a you got to know how to say and do things. I know. He has a medical condition that he was cleared and he was able to fight at one point. Yeah, like, it’s in his book, actually part reptile. It’s a very cool book. It’s interesting. I actually have a few of those books I have. I have the Dan Hardy story I have which is called part reptile. I have the Crippler with Chris lieben. Which is about Chris leaving, and then I have quitters never win, which is the Michael Bisping story and all those books are great. And it’s crazy because those three guys completely different stories. Completely different guys. But yeah, I didn’t know Dan Hardy. Got a good I was gonna say cancelled, got fired.

1:13:48 – El Lechuga
It was March of 2021. So a little bit over a year ago.

1:13:52 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah, I see it now. Yeah, Dan Hardy announced that he was released from UFC fight contract. Yeah. Oh, that’s the fight contract.

1:14:00 – El Lechuga
Though it should have been from his broadcasting contract.

1:14:08 – Edgar OtraVez
Maybe Maybe that’s maybe that’s what it was.

1:14:11 – El Lechuga
I’m seeing it says fight to I don’t know why he wasn’t fighting at that point anymore.

1:14:15 – Edgar OtraVez
Yeah. Like when he couldn’t fight anymore. When he when they found out that he had a heart problem. He still have fights on his contract. And so one of the deals he ended up making with Dana, was that he could do some analysts work. And so he was able to make a living doing that.

1:14:34 – El Lechuga
Okay. Yeah, but yeah, from what I’m seeing, he hasn’t been back since that last desktop, so

1:14:41 – Edgar OtraVez
that is too bad.

1:14:44 – El Lechuga
Well, either way. It was a hell of a paper for you. Can’t wait for the next one. For No way. Oh, I don’t know how to live up to this one. But we’ll see. Yeah, for

1:14:55 – Edgar OtraVez
sure. All right, man. Well, thanks so much for coming on and doing the Post fight show with me. Thanks. Thanks so much for listening. This is Edgar OtraVez and Lechuga. We’ll catch you next time, peace. The music you’re listening to is titled, tell me again what I’m missing by Oume. And you can find that over at Epidemic Sound. Now for those of you who don’t know, Epidemic Sound is a royalty free music provider, you sign up with a subscription, and you get access to all this royalty free music that you can use for your content. If you’re tired of using the music that comes with your Instagram account or anything else, or you’re just looking for awesome music, make sure you go over to Epidemic Sound and when you do make sure you use my referral link in the description so that they know that I said yeah, man, I can’t say which one is my favorite from that fight night. All of them were awesome. Uri was losing that fight and pulled out a magic hack trick right at the end. Valentina lost that fight that was Santos his fight until she got ahead, but and of course Wally with a spinning back fist those two girls, Wally, you want to tell us picked up right from where they left off just what a bunch of amazing fights. The whole card was amazing. And again, if you haven’t seen that card, go watch it because it’s freaking awesome. Anyway, if you like what you heard, and you want more, make sure you head on over to our website, the flow roll podcast.com. There you’ll find the complete catalogue of all our episodes, and a store where you can buy some merchandise and wrap the podcast. And if you want to follow us on social media, I’m on Instagram under the name Edgar OtraVez or you can follow the show under the name The flow roll. Make sure you give us a holler there. And if you liked the show, like subscribe, comment and share wherever you get your podcasts at. And press all the buttons that make the podcast Gods happy. Thank you so much for listening this is Edgar OtraVez We will catch you next time behave yourselves

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