127: Retrospective: Zatoichi (2003)

Edgar OtraVez and Cousin Primo give us a retrospective on the 2003 film Zatoichi. This movie was written, directed, and stars Takeshi Kitano.  Other topics are movies based on a blind swordsman and some fun movies from the 80s and 90s.

Zatoichi

Director: Takeshi Kitano
Stars: Takeshi Kitano, Michiyo Yasuda, Taka Guadalcanal, Daigorô Tachibana, Yûko Daike

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Edgar OtraVez 0:00
Hey what is going on? This is Edgar OtraVez and welcome to another episode of the Flow Roll Podcast. Now today on the show my co host will be cousin Primo and we’re going to do a retrospective on the movie The Blind swordsman set to Ichi, directed by Beat Takeshi written, directed and starring Beat Takeshi also known as the Kashi Katana. Now, if you’re new to the show, and you like hearing retrospectives on movies, make sure you head on over to our website, the floral podcast.com. There you’ll find a complete catalogue of all our episodes, and a store where you can buy some merchandise and wrap the podcast. So for those of you who don’t know the sell to Ichi character is a blind swordsman that’s based on a series of movies that started back in 1963. And this is one of the more modern ones. One of my favorites, direct debate beat the Kashi. So towards the end, we veer off topic a little bit, as always, oh, we also talked about some of our other favorite movies. Anyway, I hope you liked this episode. Now on with the show.

All right. Welcome to another episode of the Flow Roll Podcast. I am Edgar OtraVez

Cousin Primo 1:13
OtraVez?!!!

Edgar OtraVez 1:16
And today my co host is cousin Primo. What’s up Primo?

Cousin Primo 1:21
What’s up my brother? Primo!

Edgar OtraVez 1:25
All right. So now today we’re going to be doing a retrospective of the movie The 2003 Right the 2003 Zatoichi, the blind swordsman, it’s got a few different titles Zatoichi, the blind swordsman or the blind swordsman Zatoichi. Or just plain Zatoichi. It’s the 2003 film directed by Takeshi Kitano, which is who is also known as Beat Takeshi. So what do you think first off,

Cousin Primo 2:00
first of all, this movie is that is I ain’t gonna lie. I like to first of all, um, you know, me, we’re into growing up, I used to watch the the samurai Sunday stuff. And this brought me back to it. You know, and the crazy thing that I loved about it so much was that it was a blind swordsman. Yeah. So finesse so clean, when it came down to his skill, you know, like, guy had no words in the world, because he knew he was the best. You know, it was like, wow, wow.

Edgar OtraVez 2:39
There was an interesting kind of aspect of his acting or his persona on on in the film, because he was he did kind of, I don’t know how to describe it. It was very, I guess part of it is like, old Manish was just like, hey, you know, whatever, you know, kind of didn’t care, you know, right. And he just did things. And he’s almost a force of nature in that respect, where he just kind of like he just does things you don’t know he’s doing them, you know. And it’s, it’s very interesting. So here, let me give a synopsis or a quick summary of the movie. So salatu Ichi is a character based on the old movies, the old samurai movies of a blind swordsman, beat the Kashi in 2003 re wrote and directed this movie. And basically, you know what it is, is sought to eat cheese a wandering swordsman. But nobody knows he’s a swordsman, because he’s blind. So he’s very unassuming. And it starts in the movie as every movie does. In the first 15 minutes, there’s a fight, and he just does away with some attackers. Now, throughout the movie, there’s a little bit jumping back and forth. But Satoshi he happens upon a small town that is just getting wrecked by a little bit of a gang war or a mafia war between three different factions. And one faction was it the genau clan, they’re basically kind of taking over and doing away with the other gangs, and the thugs that run things for the mafia. For that particular Yakuza is just bleeding the townspeople for money there. They went from once a month pulling extortion or pulling protection money from the people the village to every day. And it’s getting to the point where the people can’t even feed themselves right. Now, one of the things that happens in the movies you get introduced to the Naruto kids who disguise themselves as geishas in order to exact revenge on the you know, clan, eventually they make their way to this village themselves as well and start to try to figure out Who are the people they need to take vengeance on they have a couple of names they really don’t know they were child they were children when their family was assassinated by this Yakuza. And what they ended up doing was systematically killing people but also trying to find out who was involved in the murder of their of their clan. Also so sought to Ichi happens to help this old lady with her groceries, and eventually ends up finding a place to stay with her and just kind of you know, just live in life poking around not really looking for trouble, but not afraid of things happens to find out that there’s I don’t know if he has like a sixth sense, or if he has an idea that there’s something wrong with the town or he went there knowing that there was something going on with with the Yakuza. So he went there to right the wrongs or he just happened to show up and he slowly figured it out. I get the impression because there’s not much backstory, I get the impression that he kind of figures it out while he’s there that right that there’s that this town is having trouble with the Yakuza. So then

he finds out that there’s some shady dealings he ends up at a gambling house where they’re playing dice you know, because of his ability to hear really well is able to pick out what the dice will roll he gets all this money but then eventually try to like stiff them, you know, on a bet figures out that they use some fake dice. And then madness ensues he goes, he just starts chopping people up. The gangs get wise, the blind swordsman, because by that time, everybody knows about sought to Ichi and sought to Ichi is an old man, I think at this point. So then they find out that the blind swordsman is hanging out. They also figured out that the nado two kids have come back and figured out that they have something to do with the clan that they killed way back when for money. Also, one of the other plot lines in the story is that there’s a ronin, a masterless Samurai, looking for work and ends up deciding to take work from the dino Yakuza clan. So then, once he gets hired by them, he goes around enforcing the laws of the Yakuza. And eventually, everything comes to a head where the nautical kids figured out who were the perpetrators of the murder of their clan, they go to try to assassinate the two people involved. And so he shows up and saves them, chops everybody up, and then saves the two kids, pulls them out of there, and then goes around, assassinating the rest of the Yakuza people, eventually has a duel with which is funny. He has a duel with that Ronin. Right. And that ends real quick, and it’s one of the buildups you know, it’s one of the things is like, Oh, they’re going to come to a head, and it’s going to be this big fight. And it’s not, he just quickly does away with him. And then finally, because he’s he, he kind of gets a sense for this is not over figures out that a few unsuspecting characters in the movie, who were tavern owners in town, and a tavern worker. And he figures out that those are the real bosses, and kills them both. Or actually, he kills the one that’s actually like, the one that does all the dealings. And then he kills the master of that guy who basically taught him everything who taught him how to be a mafia man, who is an old old man. And so he does away with him, he says, I’m not going to kill you, killing us too good for you. I’m going to make you blind. And so he cut him in the eyes. And that’s where the story ends. Now, it’s funny, because while this is happening, while he’s finishing the bosses of the story, there’s this big dance sequence, which is kind of odd. But it makes sense, because at the end of the story, this is all building up to a festival day. And it’s not only a celebration of whatever festival it was, but also a celebration of their freedom from the from the Yakuza that was infesting their little village for the last 10 years. Now. A fantastic story. Really simple a simple vengeance story slash heroes story, and lots lots going on lots a little character, so I didn’t fill in all the details. But as we go through the podcast, we’ll do that. So what did what what was one of the standout characters for you in the story?

Cousin Primo 9:42
Well, there were a couple of people that stood out in this movie. For me, it was like a ronin with the wife. First of all, he’s looking for a guy for another samurai that defeated him. Yes, and disrespect to him. So when he finally finds him He finds out that the guy that he wants to fight so bad is sick. He’s already dying. There’s no point in me find him. So by disgracing him, he just cuts his wooden sword that he used that he carried. So that was it.

Edgar OtraVez 10:17
Well, there’s that’s an interesting story, a little plotline, because one of the things that that guy said to him was something about, you know, a real samurai uses a sword for weapon, not a stick. I don’t fight with sticks. And so then when he went to kill him, he’s like, pick up your sword. And he says, like, I never had a sword. Like saying that was never, I was never really a samurai.

Cousin Primo 10:44
Right? Yeah. And what that he has no honor.

Edgar OtraVez 10:47
Exactly. So all this time he was getting his ass kicked by nobody.

Cousin Primo 10:51
Exactly. Nobody long like a wolf does as

Edgar OtraVez 10:56
Yep. So then that kind of left them dealing with, like unfulfilled vengeance. Right. And, and a way to kind of mentally prove himself as a warrior, but also regain some kind of honor.

Cousin Primo 11:12
Right. But when he goes to the bar, right, and he sees that he just sitting there drinking, he actually tries to bully him into a fight. Yeah. You know, you know, and I’m like, dude, and I think he does that because he wants to reclaim his honor. And he’s like, Well, if I defeat this guy, knowing who he is, I can I can earn back some of my honor. Okay, that was the whole point of him seeking him out. He really wanted him badly.

Edgar OtraVez 11:44
Yeah, and it wasn’t that weird cut to like, like they they faced off. They both draw swords. And he put his sword on him. But they didn’t do anything to each other. And then he said, It’s crowded in here. Let’s go outside. And then that was it. Right? Nothing happened. They didn’t go anywhere. They just stopped there. And then it jumped in into like, the next day. And I’m like, it was a weird cut. Ready?

Cousin Primo 12:12
He wasn’t ready for him. That’s what it was. So he let them go. Is that see you soon? Yeah, so we’ll see each other again. That’s exactly what he said. Oh, okay. You backed out. That’s when he backed out. Okay. So he knew. But by studying that, that, that form of his, he thought he had, yeah, he thought he him. Okay, I do this, but I can always get him this way. You know, thinking oh, I he’s always going to pull the sword upward. Yeah. And he didn’t figure that he was going downward with it. Yeah, that’s how you and that’s that that’s why that duel was like, Oh, yeah. Wait.

Edgar OtraVez 12:48
Well, he so that’s, that’s right. That’s exactly it. Because when they met in the end, they faced off again. And they were looking at each other. And he remembered how he was going to draw his sword how he drew it in the bar. And then he figured he was going to draw like reversed handed, you know, like, with, like, with a pie candle or, and so instead, right at the last moment, how to Ichi switch the grip on the on the sword and drew it the baseball bat way and cut them and he he didn’t see it coming. And that killed them. And that was right. Yeah. That was a great point.

Cousin Primo 13:32
Yeah, I was looking at that. I was like, well, he just just backhanded them real quick. Like, wow, that was it. Yeah. Yeah, he was gonna get cut. That’s what you get cut. He didn’t give him any arm. But he wasn’t as fast and he wasn’t predicting that type of move.

Edgar OtraVez 13:45
Yeah. And that’s what killed that other guy around and kill that

Cousin Primo 13:48
other guy. Yeah. And I love movies that are like that, you know, very, very, very detailed. And like, when it comes to sword fighting, you know? And like the first scene, he’s like, he’s ambushed or something. They all they try to. They know who he is. So they send a kid to steal his sword. Yeah, so he takes it and then the gang comes out two and a half. We have your sword and he just grabs it and starts cutting people puts it back as like Jesus. It’s like, Dude, you’re stupid.

Edgar OtraVez 14:18
Yeah. Yeah, grab that store. Together.

Cousin Primo 14:21
We got your sword. Yeah, yo, but hey, you never know. He could not want to do it down. Get Lucky. Get the sausage started doing it all over again. Yeah, but it was a very interesting part in that movie. And like showing off his skill right away.

Edgar OtraVez 14:38
Yeah, yeah. Because that’s one of the things they do in the beginning of the movie. The first 15 minutes is the first act and it’s always an introduction of the hero. In some way you figure out whether or not he’s going to whether he’s going to be a reluctant hero, if he’s going to be a hero about the story or he’s going to be you know, your typical hero or if he’s going to ever be like a novice hero. So All those things get introduced in the first 15 minutes. And obviously, he’s a seasoned veteran of the battlefield. And so when, and that’s the introduction we get, you know, like, yeah, you try to outsmart him, but he’s smarter than you. You know, he’s not only smarter but more skilled, right? He did all those guys.

Cousin Primo 15:20
Like, like nothing. Yeah, the one the one seem that I liked the most was when he’s walking down the street. And like the so called ninjas jump off from the ground that jump above and he just gets, like, post a sore back down. And I’m like, Jesus, you’re the head head. Yeah.

Edgar OtraVez 15:38
Right at the end. Where were you looking for the like the second last boss?

Cousin Primo 15:43
Or Exactly. Yeah. That was that was very cool like

Edgar OtraVez 15:47
that. Yeah. So that was all interesting, because I was like, I had seen this movie a long time ago and forgot those. Those last two details, where the tavern owner is the real mob boss. And the other the other like old man who was like the worker for the tavern owner is the one who was teaching them how to be a mob boss. All of it was crazy. And if he didn’t take care of those to the village would have continued to have problems. So that’s why he went and basically exterminated the issue. You know, like he went and took care of these two cats. Right? But yeah, that ninjas thing was dope, man. And then he was like, I can’t believe you figured me out. He said, he’s like, Yeah, I smelled the stench of view of you the moment I met you.

Cousin Primo 16:39
Yeah. The thirst of death and blood near? Like, Jesus boy. Yeah. Oh, he’s gonna kill you. Yeah, at that point, if he told me that I shit I would have ran. Yeah, here. I’ve gone you’d be your you might be good with it. So if you gotta catch me first.

Edgar OtraVez 16:59
For real, right, like, yeah, I wouldn’t just ran I would have I would have thrown arrows at his fucking rocks and shit. You know? Like, screw that. I

Cousin Primo 17:08
would rather throw rocks to the side. Yeah.

Edgar OtraVez 17:12
So okay, so here’s here’s something that I did not get. All right at the end of the movie towards the end. I can’t remember if it was with the mob boss or the mob bosses teacher. But he reveals that he can actually see.

Cousin Primo 17:28
Yes, yeah, that’s the very last thing. The very last person he killed which is the mob,

Edgar OtraVez 17:36
the mob boss, the mob boss or the mob bosses teacher? The mob boss teacher. Okay.

Cousin Primo 17:41
The one that he blames him. Yeah. Yeah. He’s like, you can see. Yeah. And he goes, Yes. And you see his eyes are like, lighting. They’re like, they’re like glowing in the dark. He looks demonic. Yeah, exactly. I wanted to say he looks kind of evil. Yeah. You know. And then he said, he said something profound. I can’t remember what he said. He said

Edgar OtraVez 18:07
that the blind have better senses than than those that did see. And that’s why that’s why he wanted a walk around blind. Because he didn’t want to he wanted to be able to use his other senses. But he almost something to that effect.

Cousin Primo 18:23
He also said something towards the end, which was like, he Okay, at the end, you see him walking, and he falls he tripped over a rock. Yeah. Right. And when he falling you hear him say even with my eyes wide open? I, I can’t see anything.

Edgar OtraVez 18:38
So and that’s just it? Like, is He? Is he’s blind? Or, or is it just a statement about? Or is he’s trying to say something?

Cousin Primo 18:52
I think he’s trying to say something. I think he’s trying to say that. Even though you can, you can still see. You’re not going to be able to see everything. Okay. And I think that’s that was, that’s what it really means is like, Hey, you’re going on stuff and right in front of you, you can never see everything that’s around you. Um, take it as sort of like an expression of life. Even though you see life in front of you. You will never see the full potential of it. Yeah, that’s how I see it is.

Edgar OtraVez 19:24
Yeah, that’s kind of what I got as well as something to the something to that extent, where he’s like, yeah, just because I have my wife my eyes open doesn’t mean that I’m seeing everything. But but I’m, it confused the shit out of me because I’m wasn’t sure if he can see or not. He’s like, was he Was he lying before? And he really never could see or is he? Or, you know, he can see and he’s just making a statement about how silly it is to sometimes be able to see and still fall over, you know, and Again, as a metaphor for, you know, being blind to things, even when you can see.

Cousin Primo 20:06
Do it. I never thought about it that way when you said, you probably just open up his eyes just to freak them out.

Edgar OtraVez 20:11
Maybe, because it’s looking creepy. It’s creepy as

Cousin Primo 20:15
hell yeah. And I was thinking of digging, you know, when I first see that I was like, Oh, this guy could see. Yeah, you know, but he just chooses not to see. So he can experience in heightened senses. Yeah, you know, and I’m like, That’s deep. I wouldn’t do it. I love TV to watch.

Edgar OtraVez 20:36
Me too. But I think also like, just because maybe he’s blind. Right? And so even with my eyes wide open, I still can’t see. Right? So he’s still he’s still blind. He’s got his eyes open. But that doesn’t mean the work.

Cousin Primo 20:54
Exactly, you know, but that could be it to

Edgar OtraVez 20:58
maybe who knows? God, that’s an interesting detail. I wonder what, what the actual meaning of that is? It confused the crap out of me because I’m like, Well, can you see or not? Like somebody telling me man, cuz, uh, you know, I’m confused. I thought it was great. The one of the saddest things about the movie, though, is the fact that and this is this is deep man. Because like, Okay, so the kids basically are orphaned, right. And there they have now they’re just wandering the streets, right? And eventually get picked up by somebody else. Right. And that person tries to take advantage of the boy. He has an interest in boys. And he wanted to do something awful to the boy. So then the sister whose name is E Kuno. Goes to save say tarot, or actually goes as spy on see Tara who’s also known as Jose. So she goes to look for OSA finds that he’s being dressed up like a girl might is weird. Oh, dude. And, and, you know, she sees it yells out, he realizes what’s about to happen and runs away. So they both run off, right? And now they’re, they’re truly without any resources. So they’re out on the street. And they’re now you know, no money, no place to stay. And the boy chooses to pretend to be a girl. And go, and, you know, be with men, right? That is so sad. Because you use a little little boy. And he made that choice to save his sister from having to do this stuff. Exactly. But then the sister goes off to be the assassin. She’s the one who carries the blade in the guitar. So he does all the dancing and all the distraction. And she kills everybody. So they both have lived a hard awful life. You know,

Cousin Primo 23:27
the first guy that killed they killed them together. And that was a clerk. Yeah, who took the bribe? That led the people in the kill has that they killed their family?

Edgar OtraVez 23:39
Yeah, yeah. When they first get to the town. Right. Yeah, so it’s, well, I mean, again, I believe he distracted her or, oh, say distracted the man. While she tied the string of the guitar around dude’s neck. And she was like, he was like, what’s going on? And he’s just like, really? Not auto kids, you know? As is like, Jesus, the fuck, you know? So it’s an interesting like collage of characters. So then, um, so they, I mean, that’s how they grew up, man, because of these jerks. They they grew up on the street, you know, luring people to you know, to to like steal their money tricking men to steal, steal their money. And that’s how they they spent their lives. Now they almost did the same thing to SATA Ichi and the nephew of the one lady he was staying with.

Cousin Primo 24:44
Yeah, what’s his name, chin, chin. The Gambler Shin Kichi

Edgar OtraVez 24:47
shouldn’t keep ching ching Qi Qi. So yeah, Ching Qi Qi was like addicted to gambling. Exactly. And one of the that’s another storyline where We’re so twitchy kind of teaches him almost how to find the right bet. And, you know, by closing his eyes, he was able to pick the right bets. But at one point, so So twitchy and him were sitting there, and they were getting all the bets. And then at one point, Shinichi, Shin Kichi turns to sell to Ichi, and says, you know, should I bet at all? And in, you know, two weeks, he kind of laughs and like, you know, shakes his head. Yeah, sure, you know, whatever, you know. And so dudes like, Alright, fuck it, we’re putting it all down, you know? And he’s like, shit, what should I do even odd? And he’s like, odds are whatever, right? So he bets on odds. And, you know, the one guy won one of the bad guys signals to another bad guy. And he’s like, that’s it. You know, this is this is where we take all their money, right? So then he gives one guy Oh, look, he taps the bar. The other guy. Here’s the tap. And those that that’s the sign to like, switch the dice. And so then he switches the dice. When he roll right before he pulls the cup. He’s like, hold on, that that which he’s like, hold on. Like the dice. There’s something wrong with those dice. Now, what you do, and he’s like, What are you talking about? And then he’s like, slice, slice, slice, slice, slice, blood, blood blood. You know, that was so dope. Do I wish I had that kind of power? I was just like, hold on. You’re trying to pull a fast one. Yeah, yeah. I love that.

Cousin Primo 26:31
He heard it was something wrong with that dice. Yeah. And he said, Would you call me a cheater? Yeah. There goes the arm. Yeah.

Edgar OtraVez 26:41
It was crazy. Because he didn’t even bother talking to him about it. You know, usually there’s a little bit of an argument. Nah, you’re cheating on I’m not cheating. He’s like, he’s like You call me cheater and like, boom. I’m not even dealing.

Cousin Primo 26:53
Even having

Edgar OtraVez 26:56
your slice. I got a sword. You can talk to the sword. This is done. You try to you know, you should have just been like, you call me. Yeah. Sorry. No, no, no, no, no. Why you call me cheater slice this is because right there. This is going nowhere. Slice.

Cousin Primo 27:13
Like, I gotta kill you. Everybody in here.

Edgar OtraVez 27:18
Gray. We’re all having fun. And then you had to grab and pull this shit. All right. Then the rules. Yeah, I gotta give you one chance you blew it. Now I gotta kill you, your friend with the single the signal the other guy that told him and everybody in here. Yeah. So guys

Cousin Primo 27:38
outside of had nothing to do.

Edgar OtraVez 27:42
These two guys are sitting next to me.

Cousin Primo 27:46
You know, I’m blind. I don’t know what.

Edgar OtraVez 27:50
Yeah, I just got a slice. You better get out of the way. You know, if you’re innocent.

Cousin Primo 27:55
In that scene, he actually

did protect the other people that were there. Like, he pushed him. He pushed a couple of them back when he?

Edgar OtraVez 28:03
I don’t remember. I know. I know. At one point he shut the lights off. And I was like, Oh, nobody. Nobody can see now. And I can’t see you. The viewers, the people watching can see everybody’s blind now. Yeah. Yeah, that was that was one of the things that’s interesting about samurai movies. That’s the difference between these kind of Japanese samurai movies and like the Chinese like kung fu movies, kung fu movies, or fight scene last, like 15 minutes. You know, the samurai movies? It lasts? Like two minutes at best. Because it’s over in one slice.

Cousin Primo 28:46
Well, okay, first of all, you can’t really say in the context of Chinese kung fu movies. When you grew up what those one really samurais know. correctly, the samurai sword from Japan? Yes. First of all, and what they would say they’re like, Oh, we’re swordsman. And what it is, is a combination of and I know, you know, this. It’s a combination of swordplay with martial arts. Yeah. Right. And yes, they do a lot. I hate to say it’s a lot of dancing.

Edgar OtraVez 29:17
Well, I mean, yeah, it’s choreography, right? I mean, and it’s very extended and elaborate, at least with the, the Chinese version of these fights, you know, because I mean, I’m talking about all choreography, like fight scenes, especially nowadays, even in like the Marvel movies and other action movies, American action movies, other all these other action movies. They’re like long, elaborate scenes with back and forth and all that shit. And there’s been interviews even with like someone who’s like, oh, yeah, you know, like, we do these movies and it’s like, pop pop, pop, pop pop pop up. But you know, real fighting is better that real quick. It’s like that. He’s even said it in interviews. You know, and It’s true. And so I’m not saying that the samurai movies are more true to life. Nobody’s carrying around samurai swords anymore anymore, at least not real ones. You know, I can’t say that a real fight with swords is like, but I would imagine that it would be very quick, you know? Yeah. Because I mean, all you have to do is cut the guy in the hand. You know, he loses the sword. You cut the guy in the arm, he loses his arm, you know, cut him in the leg. You know, it’s pretty much touch him with the sword. It’s done. Like,

Cousin Primo 30:33
whoa, okay, you think about this, like, let’s let you said you said yes, they get cut easy. But I mean, if you connect to source together, you’re gonna get their feedback. You can just like, go toe to toe right there and then, like clicking 22 baseball bats together, you’re gonna you’re gonna let go. Yeah. You know, like, ah, the shock.

Edgar OtraVez 30:52
Yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you’re talking about that that kind of vibrate like their vibration when you when you hit things. Like I don’t know if I don’t know if swords are like that. I have no idea what they’re really like. I think the My understanding is that the actual sword might actually be a little more soft. The metal is kind of soft. So if they were to hit like that, the blade would get dulled real quick. So I don’t know. But dude, like, the the action scenes in this movie is crazy. Because he is fast. He says, wow, you know, the only shortcoming and I don’t even know if it’s a shortcoming. But like we mentioned before, is the blood or the CGI for the blood? There’s a lot of

Cousin Primo 31:40
it’s it’s kind of neat work. Yeah.

Edgar OtraVez 31:44
It’s very cartoony and I don’t and I don’t know if I care. You know,

Cousin Primo 31:51
my, my, the one of the reasons I do like this, so much is the way he handles that sort. Okay, his first kill if it just, it’s just crazy, because he cuts him and then he does this crazy thing with the sword. Like, instantly the sword is cleaned from blood and he just puts it back in. He’s like, Yeah, you know, I’m like, wonderful. He’s just do.

Edgar OtraVez 32:17
Yeah. You just clean the sword and put it back in the hill

Cousin Primo 32:21
and put it back in there. And he’s like, Yo, like, you’re badass. Yeah, at that point. I would have dropped what I was doing and go home. Perfect. Keep

your money.

Edgar OtraVez 32:29
Yeah. I’m sorry. I didn’t mean no

Cousin Primo 32:33
longer a gangster. No.

Edgar OtraVez 32:36
I’m gonna go. Yeah. I’m gonna go be a monk. Now. I’m sorry. You’re right. I am wrong. I like having all my my fingers and toes you in. But I don’t know. Like, there’s always there’s always the one cat is like I could I could take. I’m scared as shit. But I know I got those. And I’m just like, dude, he just wiped out your whole like your whole crew. Like your whole Posse is dead. What makes you think that you got a chance? Like, what makes you think? No, dude, this is where you run. And if you’re lucky, he won’t chase you and can’t find you because he’s blind. Right? Yeah. Yeah, you smell you. Do smell you? But yeah, but you just don’t find it. Yeah, he’s gonna smell a pee in the pool. You you put yourself in. And he’s gonna find you.

Cousin Primo 33:31
Yeah, I smell that. I recognize that smell anywhere.

Edgar OtraVez 33:35
Yeah, it’s the stench of your of your crap that you just took because I came after you. Powers? Yes, yes. Yeah, that’s what he would call it right. He wouldn’t even call it grep I smell the I smell your cowardice. You mean the poo and shit? Yeah, you got me. thrown at him just to distract? No, cool, wasn’t it? Yeah, there you go. Hopefully you can’t find me now because it’s all over you. Crazy. That’s an interesting way of like getting a bad guy out for you, man. You’re being chased by a bad guy and you’re scared shitless you go ahead and you know shit yourself. And throw it at the bad guy and the guy is gonna get all over him. And he’s gonna be like, why? You know, I was just trying to rob you. Your way you go ahead and throw poo. I’m gonna go home and take a shower. You know, I’m forget this. I would like to claim. Yeah, I would like to because it’s like, Damn man who went and went wrong, man. I’m done with this. Yeah, dude. That’s what you got to when you get into a fight, man. Like, don’t even bother with the fight. Just escalate. Like there’s two ways to take care of like, there’s two strategies that you can employ. You can either try to de escalate or be like, Oh, I’ll do No, man, it’s okay man. Look, let me buy you a beer. I’m sorry. You know, the Escalade? No, no, you’re right, man. Yes, sure. And let me get you a beer, you know? Or you can go completely in the other direction. And just go crazy. And be act like a crazy person. And like, you know, who and throw crap at them like a monkey, you know? Like, you know, just like just like, you know, ever see you ever see like a cage gorilla. They throw poo at each other man, they’ll throw this just No, yeah, do just fuck it, man. Just get nuts. Just go real nuts and just do something nuts and be like, screw this.

Cousin Primo 35:48
I remember one time that happened to me. I was at a bar. And this guy just like, he really liked the fact that I was hanging out with a bunch of chicks. Oh, yeah. You know, and the girls weren’t even paying him. No mine. Yeah, you know, so I’m just sitting there talking to the girls when you say he comes up and he says hey. And he goes, What the fuck? Why are you all these girls? I was like, Well, money your fucking business? Yeah, no, no girls are like, Fuck you get away from us. Blah, blah, blah. He starts talking shit. He brings some of his buddies and he goes I don’t kick your ass. Like, yeah, you can miss it. But at the end of the night, these girls are still coming home with me. Yeah, you know, and they’re like, fuck you. They’re like, What are you scared to get pooped my pants

but they were like you were cool about I’m gonna get my SB I’m gonna get my SB

kick. No, but the whole thing is is like don’t don’t don’t know. Like you said don’t escalate it. Just be

Edgar OtraVez 36:51
cool about it. Yeah, de escalate. Or get really nerdy and be like, you don’t want to mess with me. start twitching you know? I just got out of the sanatorium my face he would like and just be like talking to nobody All right. Casper hole up like Casper, who you’re talking to my friend right here. mousy, little mousy. There you go. Like, what are you talking about? You’re talking about that person next to you? No, I’m talking about the little mouse on my shoulder telling me what to do. Alright, man, you know what? I’m sorry, man. I’m sorry. You in Let me buy you a beer. You see the bad guy easy to tell?

Cousin Primo 37:43
Is that is that a cool? Little mousy? Yeah, he

says okay,

Edgar OtraVez 37:47
yeah. Very good one for him to get one from mousy.

Cousin Primo 37:52
He wants a martini. Yeah.

Edgar OtraVez 37:55
Fancy mouse? A fancy mouse. Yeah, British. It’d be like, Oh, fuck this.

Cousin Primo 38:07
Guy, go to the bar, give this do whatever the fuck you

Edgar OtraVez 38:09
want. Like I’m leaving. Here’s my cars. I’ll come back later. Do whatever you want. So yeah, man, there’s there’s a couple sad stories in there, man. And so then the other the other thread in this was with the Ronin, he has that wife. That’s sick. Right? Right. And the ronin doesn’t have any money, because you know, he’s a masterless Samurai, but he still wants to live the life, he still wants to be a samurai. And he’s hoping that one day he’ll he’ll get hired again and be a samurai. So this is like at the end of that era, right? And so he’s still looking for work as a samurai. But nobody’s gonna give him work anymore. Unless it’s going to be one of these Yakuza cats or something bad like that. And the wife is like, Please, don’t do this work anymore. Please stop doing this. Don’t pick up another job like that we’ll find something else to do. And that’s where that’s, that’s when he should have found something else to do. That’s when he should have been like, screw the sword. You know, even the guy came to avenge myself with you know, he’s, he’s done. You know, he’s done being a samurai. He’s done living almost like, he should have just been like, now it’s time for me to move on. Like, I’m gonna go. I don’t know, you know, make tables or, you know, poor rice out of the rice fields or something instead, and a steady continue to want to live the life. And the wife at the end was feeling Dishonored because of the choices of her husband. Also she you know, she was kind of dying, right? She was very ill. And so rather than continue on living the life with her husband. She committed suicide which was the ritual honorable so Besides the seppuku, whatever, and she cuts her gut and then passes away at the same time that her samurai husband gets cut down by satu Ichi. So like I found that really interesting. Because there were remnants of an old time, right? That there’s, there’s a few stories like that where the Romans were these Ronin are no longer employable, and they’re looking for work and a lot of them during that time become thugs. And then go around and doing doing that kind of that kind of work. It’s one of the other stories are plotlines. In the famous movie, Seven Samurai, which is a great movie, we should actually do Seven Samurai now that I think about it. But anyway, but yeah, so like, they become thugs and whatnot. And, and that’s basically what he became, he became a quote unquote, bodyguard, for Yakuza, you know, and what was he he was, he became a thug. He became a hired gun, you know, actly what, it is a hired gun, mercenary, mercenary, right? Yes, a mercenary for hire, and he should have just listened to his wife, he would still be alive. And his wife would still be alive. You know, you you make these poor choices of neons it was no longer honorable, the things he was doing. He was, it might have been honorable when he was a samurai, you know, when he was a soldier, but now, you know, he’s, he’s, he’s a mercenary. His wife didn’t want to deal with anymore. You know? I mean, I would like to think in a modern day, nobody would commit suicide, they would just leave their husband, you know. But like, what does a woman who leaves her husband during that time? What does what choices does she have? I don’t know. Yeah, it’s a very different time. Thankfully, we live in an era where if something like that happens, she’s got options,

Cousin Primo 42:05
you know, exactly.

Edgar OtraVez 42:08
But anyway, um, yeah. So there’s a few sad stories in this. And, you know, I don’t know, I don’t know how I feel about that particular storyline, where the where the wife committed suicide. I like, conflicted there, you know, but I mean, it’s not necessarily like not every storyline needs to be a happy ending, right? Because at the end, the kids are the grown up kids, the narrative kids, they are dancing in the festival. And midway through the dance, they turned back into kids. Right. And I guess it’s supposed to symbolize like them being going back to a youth, right, being happier time, I happier time. Exactly. And then finally experiencing some kind of joy. Right? Because they’ve had a rough few years. Yeah, you know, the last 10 years have been very rough for them. And so now they find a place to stay. And they’re being part of this festival where they, they get to enjoy themselves. It’s it’s, it’s a it’s not exactly I wouldn’t exactly call it a happy ending. We lost

Cousin Primo 43:26
the last 10 years, but now they have a family and they’ve been accepted by the town. Yeah. See,

Edgar OtraVez 43:33
I understand that. But look at look at the price they paid. Exactly. It’s it’s harsh, man. It’s, it’s fucking rough. But I mean, that’s, that’s what the stories are, you know, they went through this life. And that’s, I want to say, part of, I don’t know if I want to call this good writing. But if you’re gonna attempt to write a good story, you there’s nothing you can do. You have to let the lessons to be learned. You shouldn’t go travel through time. And undo that. You know, you shouldn’t like that’s just poor writing. Right? Like, you always hate the stories where the guy is like, oh, he fell off the cliff. You know, he fell off a cliff. He’s he’s dead. No, you look over the edge and he’s hanging on the on the edge. I was like, motherfucker. You just lied to me. Yeah. Now, he fell off the cliff. Now the story’s got to continue with that repercussion with that character having fallen off the cliff. You jumped the shark, right? Jumping the shark is I don’t know if you know the term but it’s it’s the remember the happy days movie or the happy days show? Yeah, apparently there’s there’s a scene where Fonzie jumps a shark. Right? Yes. He’s like on them like, like a water scooter. Yeah, ski boat or a ski thing. And he jumps over a shark. And everybody’s like, That’s some bullshit. Yeah, you can’t jump the shark. Man, you gotta you gotta live with the consequences. Fonzie should have gotten eaten. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, it’s a weird ending, but like they get to rebuild. And that’s part of what happens at the end. The the fire, there’s a fire, it burns down that house where the old woman was living that they gave out to Ichi, a place to stay. And that house is gone. Now, the townspeople are helping her rebuild. And they have a festival. So now that the awful Yakuza is gone, and they get to rebuild and become a prosperous village again. Yeah. It’s I think that’s, that’s the one metaphor, right that you can take, especially with the house burning down. Is is now now that the worst is over. Now you can rebuild. And now like, there’s no going back. The house is gone. But now you can make a new one. Right? Exactly. It’s, it’s rough. It’s rough. It’s gonna take time. It’s gonna she’s gonna need someone to give her some space to live. In the meantime, while the house gets billed. She’s gonna have to ask people to help her. But once it’s all done, she’s going to have a place to stay. It’s going to be brand new.

It’s a new start. Exactly. No, beginning. A new beginning.

Yeah, man. It’s a simple movie. Right.

Cousin Primo 46:31
But um, for I mean, you understand it’s a movie about revenge. Like he said, You know, it’s about punishing those who have done evil. Yeah. There’s plenty of plenty of people that you know, but overall, it was a great movie. I enjoyed it. Yeah, I enjoyed a lot, too. Yeah. It’s one of my favorite one of my favorite movies due to the fact that, you know, I told you before that I’m a big fan of Samurais, you know, and there was another movie that sort of resembled it called Blind blind theory.

Edgar OtraVez 47:02
Yes. I mentioned that before the podcast. Yes. Right.

Cousin Primo 47:05
And then same thing, too. It’s an old movie that they modernized in the 80s. So it was pretty good. I enjoyed it. You know, and it’s like, Oh, I love that movie so much blown up. And I was like, when I saw I was on Tucci I actually went back to find some older movies of Dan Tucci the blind swordsman. Yeah. And never found one. Until recently, HBO Max has the series. Yeah, it’s on the Turner Classic Network that’s connected to HBO.

Edgar OtraVez 47:43
Is it all the classics are just just a few.

Cousin Primo 47:47
I have no idea. I know it’s there. Because I’ve seen it. I’ve also seen what’s it called? Now what is that one wolf and cub?

Edgar OtraVez 47:58
Oh Wolf and cub? Yes, that’s another fantastic series of samurai master

Cousin Primo 48:02
they’re on there too. And also I think handle the blade I think is on there as well handle the blade the blade I think or Ichi the blade my fault the old the original Ichi the blade. Right. So I know for a fact they’re on there because there’s a black and white movies. So I think it’s called bear in color. Bear and cub or wolf and cub. Wolf income. Wolf and cub. Yeah, they’re on there. Yeah.

Edgar OtraVez 48:34
Yeah, Wolf. And cub is a fantastic series.

Cousin Primo 48:37
Oh, yeah. I don’t know how many movies there are. But I know they have a couple on there.

Edgar OtraVez 48:42
So the one we’re talking about the blind theory that is that was made in 1989. It’s, it’s according to what I’m reading here. It’s an action comedy, which I don’t remember it being a comedy. I remember just being a straight

Cousin Primo 48:58
humor than it was because he did say so. It says a one liners. So that’s why it’s considered a comedy I think.

Edgar OtraVez 49:07
Okay, so it’s actually a remake of Sal to he challenged, which is the 17 film or the Japanese sought to Ichi films. Wow. And it stars Rooker Hauer I have a problem pronouncing that guy’s name. But if you’ve seen some of these action movies, these straight a video or B movie action movies. Hauer was always one of the faces you would see in some of these movies. Sometimes a good guy sometimes a bad guy.

Cousin Primo 49:39
I trying to think What movie did he come out? It was pretty that he stars in Bay. I’m thinking

Edgar OtraVez 49:46
well, there was there was Blade Runner.

Cousin Primo 49:50
He was in Blade Runner. Right? I mean, bad guy.

Edgar OtraVez 49:53
Yeah, he’s Yeah, he was he was one of the antagonists and that he was also in In some Buffy the Vampire Slayer episodes, I guess, but yeah, he must have had makeup or something. He was in Batman Begins he was in Sin City, right? But there was one movie. I’m trying to remember the name of it. I want to see it was. Ah, man, what was it? I want to see it was like I come in peace.

Cousin Primo 50:26
No, I knew you’re gonna say that. Really? I knew you were gonna say that because you’re being thrown off with the hair. Ah, that’s what it is.

Edgar OtraVez 50:34
It’s he wasn’t in that one. Here. Let me look.

Cousin Primo 50:37
No, look it up. Look it up. I know I

Edgar OtraVez 50:40
come in peace. That’s a different actor. I

Cousin Primo 50:44
know you’re talking about

Edgar OtraVez 50:45
well, what’s his name? The longer in his in it. Yeah, he’s in it. And he’s in it and he tells the guy and you’ll go in pieces. Okay, so I I got it wrong. Okay, so the the alien in that movie talyc is actually Matthews house. Completely different cat. And this guy actually this guy was the bad guy in no retreat. No surrender. The first one no, the second one. He was a bad guy. No retreat. No surrender. Part two is awesome. Do you that guy cuz he was like the whole top bad guy. You know? Yeah. And and the hero in that that story was trying to kick him and he would just sit there and be like, Ah, you can’t knock me over. And he would like drop kick him and shit. And he’s just like, Yeah, but um, but yeah, do that. That would be was awesome. I loved all the no retreat, no surrender movies.

Cousin Primo 51:45
I was a big fan of kickboxing a series

Edgar OtraVez 51:48
of a kickboxer series. Yes.

Cousin Primo 51:50
I was a big fan of that. was okay, but then after that one kid took over. Oh, yeah. And that was that kid from step by step I think.

Edgar OtraVez 52:02
Yes, yes. Yeah. I don’t know. I don’t know why when he did that. That was not I mean, not that he wasn’t talented, but they should have just called it something else. Uh, Sasha Mitchell. You’re talking about Sasha Mitchell. Yeah, he was in kickboxer too. And yeah, and and then all the rest of the kickboxing movies and then there was another one called kickboxer armor getting which is a whole new things.

Cousin Primo 52:30
Series. Yeah, that’s the one with Batista.

Edgar OtraVez 52:33
Oh, yeah. As Tang pole or whatever.

Cousin Primo 52:36
Yeah, there’s a temple. Like damn, you couldn’t get anybody bigger the foot

Edgar OtraVez 52:47
man, but yeah, like kickboxer was one of those great movies man. He John Claude Van Damme starred in the 1989 kickboxer within us Alexia who was amazing kickboxer and Dennis Alexio was on a on a fucking DVD that I bought once because I was like, so thirsty for like kickboxing movies like actual like kickboxing. So I bought this kickboxing movie, it was just a bunch of fights, and had Dennis Alexio and a few other people on there. But then X Dennis Alexio in this movie, I didn’t know this was gonna happen. I by by this fucking movie, I watched this Alexio fight this other cat. And this other dude. Like he throws a hard leg kick. And that’s the first time I saw anybody break their shin on a leg kick. Wow. Yeah, he like Dennis Alexio broke his leg. And I was like, oh shit, that’s horrible. And it was like sometime after kickboxer and that was it. Like, I don’t know if he fought again after that. You know, especially back then I don’t know what they did, you know, with like, injuries like that, but I’ve never heard of that shit. Until then. And I was like, holy shit. You could do that. Like that shit is fucking scary. Shit could happen. Yeah, exactly. And so then like, I forget that that can happen and then now like recently, especially with the UFC and everything it’s like happening so fucking often. It’s just so scary. Yeah, like makes me not want to throw leg kicks anymore. You know? Not that I throw is I don’t even spar anymore but yeah, but yeah, man,

Cousin Primo 54:25
but another great movie. I think we should do bro is fat dragon.

Edgar OtraVez 54:30
Oh, fat dragon. The fat dragon we are you talking about the modern fat dragon with Donnie and yes, dude. There’s a few movies. We could probably throw on that on that list that you and I have been working on. Like fat dragon. I threw something on just today. Oh, I threw on their face off. So I was watching so to Ichi on Pluto, because it’s free on Pluto. Right? As soon as it’s finished. I saw that yeah gave you a cue on the bottom they’ll let you like suggestions of what you should watch next and one of the suggestions was face off. I was like, oh shit, I should do that one.

Cousin Primo 55:11
Face off with with

Edgar OtraVez 55:13
to roleplay Yeah,

Cousin Primo 55:17
yeah. But another we should watch his swordfish.

Edgar OtraVez 55:22
Oh swordfish. Interesting. With and. And Trota Yeah, and Halle Berry.

Cousin Primo 55:31
Halle Berry. I don’t care. That’s all Hey Bear. Dr. Walter makes the movie. I am sorry to say that

Edgar OtraVez 55:37
you think so? He’s a weird cat.

Cousin Primo 55:40
Yeah, yeah, you know, he’s a one movie. Earth something and he’s a giant alien. I’m like, Yeah, battle,

Edgar OtraVez 55:48
battle. Earth or saddle fuel the earth? I think it’s what it’s called. Yeah, that one you see. Okay, so that movie then movies. I don’t want to call it propaganda but it’s part of that it employs a lot of the thinking that that church uses. I mean, it’s science shit. Yeah, Scientology. Yeah, that movie is covered in Scientology. I don’t understand all the references because I’m not a Scientologist.

Cousin Primo 56:15
That’s why the movie bombed.

Edgar OtraVez 56:19
But it’s got all kinds of weird shit in it, man. And it’s all Yeah, it’s all it’s all Scientology stuff. Is I remember watching him like what is going on? Like, I don’t get this. You know?

Cousin Primo 56:28
I’ll get it either. I watched it. I’m like, What the fuck is

wrong with a lot of fucking makeup? That’s not the new

Edgar OtraVez 56:35
and dreadlocks. He had like dreadlocks. He was an alien with drill. Had a

Cousin Primo 56:39
thing and it’s no secret breed on Earth. And I’m like, dude, and they were to fucking stack shoes throughout the day like dude. No, no, sorry. Yeah. Yeah,

Edgar OtraVez 56:51
yeah. No, I also wanted to do not my cousin or not my cousin Dan. I was gonna say not my cousin Vinnie. But you know Vinnie is not really my cousin, so I guess that’s not wrong, but no, I want to cousin Vinnie. That was gonna be hard to do because I’m gonna be doing this I’m gonna be doing exactly that. It’s not my cousin Dan. Not my cousin Vinnie cousin Vinnie. All that shit. I know fuck that up all crazy

Cousin Primo 57:16
dope man we should do for I want to do this with these guys because I love I love these movies. Get Shorty? Really? And be cool.

Edgar OtraVez 57:30
See be cool. I don’t remember it

Cousin Primo 57:32
was actually because actually part two of gets Yeah, it’s

Edgar OtraVez 57:35
a sequel, right? Yeah. I don’t remember those two movies. I in fact, I don’t. I know. I didn’t see Get Shorty. So I can’t I can’t. There’s no way I saw

Cousin Primo 57:43
cool. It’s on TV. Okay,

Edgar OtraVez 57:45
I’ll check it out. I’ve never seen them. I have to watch them. And I like 1990 eyes. Right?

Cousin Primo 57:52
I mean, I love it because the first one is like he’s trying to make a guy into an actor. And the second one he’s trying to make a girl into a singer.

Edgar OtraVez 58:03
Oh, interesting.

Cousin Primo 58:05
And the second one there’s a lot more stars in Uma Thurman. What’s his name? Saturday entertainer. You got the

Edgar OtraVez 58:16
watch? Also, it’s got an all star ensemble cast.

Cousin Primo 58:19
So it’s an all star ensemble even got like Aerosmith is in it. I was like cool. Where have

Edgar OtraVez 58:26
you got to do we got to do like some some snooty movies. Yeah, like, we got to do some. I want to say like

Cousin Primo 58:40
we don’t even ask nobody people watch

Edgar OtraVez 58:43
it. Yeah, we don’t even have a snooty following. I’m talking about like Goodfellas. First of all. Well, I want to do good fellas.

Cousin Primo 58:50
I will do good fellas.

Edgar OtraVez 58:53
Like, I want to do Goodfellas I want to do Kill Bill. I want to do Pulp Fiction.

Cousin Primo 59:01
Carlitos way.

Edgar OtraVez 59:02
Carlitos way, that’s not a bad one. That will be dope. I don’t know if I want to do Scarface,

Cousin Primo 59:09
I think is overrated. I think it’s a good movie.

Edgar OtraVez 59:12
I just there’s so little time. I rarely do Goodfellas Goodfellas,

Cousin Primo 59:19
especially since so that guy passed away.

Edgar OtraVez 59:22
Oh, yes. Ray Liotta passed away not too long ago.

Cousin Primo 59:26
And he didn’t want to do that ninja turtle movie one review.

Edgar OtraVez 59:31
The original TMT the original one TM and T T I said TNT. TNT? Yeah. Yeah, the original Ninja Turtles with the rubber suits. That was that was a pretty good movie.

Cousin Primo 59:45
It was a good movie.

Edgar OtraVez 59:46
It holds up pretty okay. I mean, rubber suits and all, you know, I just

Cousin Primo 59:53
think it was a lot. The movie itself did a lot of the original Eastman storyline which is what I liked it Yeah, I just think it’s an overall great movie. I mean, back in the day, who ever thought that something like that would come out, though, especially since the way it looked, you know who, like Ninja Turtle movies? What? You’re crazy, you know?

Edgar OtraVez 1:00:13
Or it was it was one of the first few like, like big budget comic book movies, right? Because Ninja Turtles I’m looking at right now Ninja Turtles was made. The original Ninja Turtles was made in 1990. Okay, right. Now, I want to say that the bad the Tim Burton Batman movie was made in actually 1989. So it was the year before 1989 Batman came out. That was, that was the, at least from my memory, one of the biggest comic book movies to be made since the Superman movie, right? Yes, it was. It was Superman came out the original Superman with Christopher Reeve. That one came out in in 1978, starring Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder. And that was directed by Richard Donner, of course, Jesus Christ. I should know this. Richard Donner. That was made way back in 1978. That was the original big budget comic book movie, then, then Batman, you know, almost, you know, almost 20 years later, right. And then shortly thereafter, there was ninja turtles, and then it just kind of takes off after that. Now it’s all good. Yeah, I was just saying like the original, big budget comic book movie, was the 1978 Superman movie, the Richard Donner Superman movie with Christopher Reeve. And then 20 years later, we get Batman with Tim Burton. Then Then after that, it was just like, no big budget comic book movie after after big budget comic book movie, right? Because we got a whole bunch of Batman after that. You know, we didn’t get a Superman until so yeah. Max deal. Oh,

Cousin Primo 1:02:17
no, no, no Max deal. Superman Returns.

Edgar OtraVez 1:02:21
Superman Returns. That’s right. With Brandon Roth, and that was directed by Bryan Singer. Not my favorite movie. A lot of people don’t like that movie.

Cousin Primo 1:02:33
I don’t want to give you I don’t like

Edgar OtraVez 1:02:35
it either. I think it’s just okay.

Cousin Primo 1:02:37
I liked the fact that they put him into the CW verse that started it like that. That was interesting. Yeah, it was. Um, but other than that, I mean, it was it was like, It’s okay. It’s okay. Yeah, it was fine. Because it was a Superman movie. You know?

Edgar OtraVez 1:02:56
You know, the one movie I thought was was pretty decent was the Daredevil movie.

Cousin Primo 1:03:04
I’m glad. I’m glad you said that. I actually, I actually liked her though.

Edgar OtraVez 1:03:10
With Ben Affleck. Yeah, yeah. I thought that was. Yeah, I thought it was a decent

Cousin Primo 1:03:16
electricity on the story. But no,

Edgar OtraVez 1:03:20
I think Jennifer Garner makes a good electron. I think she was great in their devil. And I think she you know, as a as that character. I think she’s great. But I didn’t I don’t know if I cared much for the Elektra movie.

Cousin Primo 1:03:36
Yeah, that sounds like that movie was terrible. I’m sorry. It was terrible.

Edgar OtraVez 1:03:40
I don’t remember this. Just put it this way. I don’t remember the movie and I know I watched it and I usually don’t do that but all you know what we should do with it. Is is snatch. Oh, I like I like snatch do like snatches just one of my favorite movies. Snatch is a Guy Ritchie movie. And it has an ensemble cast. And that guy has a very interesting perspective on on writing films and stuff. He he thinks that it’s boring to tell a regular one character story. You know, I’m not that he doesn’t do it. He has done it. But he prefers to write an ensemble cast movie with complex plot lines and stuff like that. Because that is more interesting than your kind of read done hero arc story. So that’s why he does these giant ensemble stories and snatches one of those. I know people like that. What is it? Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

Cousin Primo 1:04:53
Oh, he did that one. Yeah. I did like that.

Edgar OtraVez 1:04:59
Yeah. He’s our man we should we should do. And wrath of man is another one of his.

Cousin Primo 1:05:06
Haven’t seen that. Wait is that? No. Is that the one where the guy goes into town trying to find his money?

Edgar OtraVez 1:05:12
I have no idea what happens. I haven’t seen it. Who’s in it?

Cousin Primo 1:05:16
Do you have Jason stadium? All the nest aftermovie

Edgar OtraVez 1:05:22
I’m thinking about Yeah, you know who Jason stay the misery? Oh, who doesn’t? Yeah, okay, just making sure man don’t get don’t get all puffy in the chest. You know, just just because

Cousin Primo 1:05:33
it was I only did it once.

Edgar OtraVez 1:05:36
I know you get you get all you get all crazy. I’m just saying I’m just asking. Man I have no I had no idea. This guy had such a large like he’s got a lot of movies that he’s directed. Revolver. I’ve seen revolver. I think it’s okay. I see. Yes. Yeah, snatch is one of his best so his lock stock and two smoking barrels. There’s there’s that Madonna movie he made right you know. swept away they I don’t know what happened there. Oh,

Cousin Primo 1:06:12
do you want even done a movie? I ever seen this? Who’s that girl and that was it. I’ve never seen that. Great movie. Yeah. Yeah, maybe I’m in love with her. But yeah, maybe.

Edgar OtraVez 1:06:25
I’ve never seen I’ve never seen that I’ve never seen swept away. I’ve never seen any of her movies. I’ve seen like any of her.

Cousin Primo 1:06:32
I think desperately seeking Susan. Oh,

Edgar OtraVez 1:06:35
shit. That’s right. Desperately Seeking Susan. I think I have seen that one. I don’t remember it. But I know I

Cousin Primo 1:06:43
I’ve seen it. I love it. And then I saw Who’s that girl?

Edgar OtraVez 1:06:49
Oh my goodness. That’s nuts. Dude. I can’t believe you. I can’t believe you remember those movies, man.

Cousin Primo 1:06:58
Yeah, it told you we were locked up you this before? You know. Even diseases came out. We were locked up announced that my mom was afraid. Let us out of the

Edgar OtraVez 1:07:06
house. Yeah, cuz we all lived in the hood. Yeah, I know. Right? So

Cousin Primo 1:07:09
but I mean, I remember I told you I have a photogenic memory. I just have a hard time concentrating. When it comes to pulling up info.

Edgar OtraVez 1:07:17
Do so. Okay, so like so you got so you just unlocked a bunch of movies. When you say who’s? Who’s that girl? Because there’s there’s mannequin mannequin. Don’t yeah, there’s a mannequin there’s weird science Weekend at Bernie’s Weekend at Bernie’s. Jesus Christ bro. Weekend at Bernie’s is just preposterous dude is just fucking that’s a crazy stupid movie was worse.

Cousin Primo 1:07:47
Oh, we should go to on him and he put some headphones so he could walk into the money.

Edgar OtraVez 1:07:55
So then, what else is there? So okay, so then there’s, there’s the one where the guy is a pizza delivery guy. And everywhere he goes. He’s actually like people order a pizza with extra anchovies. He’s basically a stud. They order a pizza they pay or money pay him money.

Cousin Primo 1:08:13
Oh yeah, I know. You can’t buy me love.

Edgar OtraVez 1:08:17
I think it’s what it’s called.

Cousin Primo 1:08:19
No Can’t Buy Me Love is about a kid who actually is a nerd. And he pays the hottest girl and in high school to be his girlfriend.

Edgar OtraVez 1:08:26
Oh shit. That’s another one we should watch. Can’t Buy Me Love. But what’s the and then so what’s the pizza delivery when I’m talking about?

Cousin Primo 1:08:35
I don’t want to say some Mystic Pizza. Now it’s our

Edgar OtraVez 1:08:38
mistake pizza because Mystic Pizza is the one with

Cousin Primo 1:08:42
Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts.

Edgar OtraVez 1:08:44
It’s a Julia Roberts. Girl movie. Ah, yeah, it’s like my sister loved those movies. Oh shit. Did you just don’t like the bunch of my sister for a minute there was under Meg Rancic. You got mail?

Cousin Primo 1:09:00
You’re right. Yeah,

Edgar OtraVez 1:09:02
there’s two. Those two movies she did with Tom Hanks. You got me on and then the other one. No, no, that’s a Meg Ryan was big for the romantic comedies. Mag Ryan was it no no, no, no, no, no, no no no Meg Ryan she did

Cousin Primo 1:09:23
all the we need to do grow splash.

Edgar OtraVez 1:09:26
Oh shit. I don’t know. I don’t remember that one anymore. What? Yeah, I don’t remember

Cousin Primo 1:09:32
that. I had John Candy ahead. Tom Hanks. And a hat. Man, I can’t remember the mermaid

Edgar OtraVez 1:09:45
it’s uh, here. Let me let me look it up. Meg Ryan, no, no migraine. Splash. Tom Hanks. There ohana.

Cousin Primo 1:09:54
Daryl Hannah. There you go.

Edgar OtraVez 1:09:57
Yeah, beautiful lady. You Eugene Levy was in that you believe that shit. Yeah, he

Cousin Primo 1:10:02
was. It wasn’t he was like the one scientist that was studying her

Edgar OtraVez 1:10:07
do John Kay

Cousin Primo 1:10:08
just John Candy

Edgar OtraVez 1:10:10
no no I know you say John Candy but it just popped in my head John Candy. There’s all these John Candy movies. And Uncle Buck is the top of is on top of my list. He is the best in that movie. Because he was like, you know, Uncle Buck, you know? He was like, no nonsense guy. Like bachelor didn’t give a fuck about shared with these kids,

Cousin Primo 1:10:32
planes, trains and automobiles. I’ve never seen that one. That’s what John Candy. Oh, do you know what we need to do? was uh,

Edgar OtraVez 1:10:42
there is one movie we need to do soon. And on top of all this was the father of the bride. Oh, Father the bride. Dude. Bro. Bro. You’re not gonna make it out of that movie without crying bro. You’re gonna fuck it. You are gonna fucking cry. You not just mean you to you’re gonna ball in that motherfucking movie. Follow the bride is a fantastic movie. We should do that. Next. I’m gonna put that on the list. Because here’s the thing. Not that I’m trying to get like, you know, hits and shit. But first of all, Father bride. I’ve been looking at that movie because I wanted to show it to my daughter. Because I know that she would like it. She’s she’s getting into this, like, you know, like this phase where she kind of likes you know, these romantic comedy type movies or these romantic movies? Yeah. And so far the bride, fantastic movie, but they’re making they’re doing a remake of that movie. There

Cousin Primo 1:11:40
is happier with a dozen or something happier brother doesn’t know. It’s not there’s not quite happy about it doesn’t. Close enough. Now. That’s eight and enough. Jesus. Yeah.

Edgar OtraVez 1:11:55
It’s so like, follow the bride is gonna get remade with Andy Garcia and Gloria Stefan doing Aladdin spin on it. Yes, do Andy Garcia and Gloria and Stefan are going to be in a fucking movie together. It’s going to be a you know, movie. I mean, the Latin dude is going to be awesome, dude. Awesome is going to be on HBO. But the original father the bride starred Steve Martin. And Diane Keaton. Yeah, that’s the 9091 film. That movie is that movie holds up to like, Sure, there’s some things that are antiquated. You know, like, you know, you look at it and be like, Oh, that’s old, you know? Or nobody does that anymore. Sure. There’s a little bit of that. But for the most part, like, all the fields are all the same. Like, you’re gonna watch that movie, and you’re gonna be like, fuck, you know? Because there is one part in the movie. You see it in the trailer? She’s like, you know, or actually there’s a they don’t there’s not even a trailer. Let’s just put it that way. I had been looking at trying to get this movie. This movie has been like 20 bucks or 15 bucks for the last I don’t know, two months. I’ve been looking at it. Finally, for some reason, they dropped the price. I bought it on prime because you can’t get it anywhere. I bought it on prime. They dropped the price to like, I don’t know, 599 or something. So Oh, right. So I bought it. I watched it with my daughter. My daughter cried all through the end. And I was a mess. She was a mess. We were all a mess. But it’s a fantastic movie. If if you guys out there if you’re a father and you have a daughter, watch that fucking movie. You’re gonna love it. It’s it’s great. It’s a great movie. But they’re remaking it with glorious stuff on

Cousin Primo 1:13:42
Wow. So it’s it’s a glorious stuff and I was in Yeah. Yeah. And

Edgar OtraVez 1:13:47
Andy Garcia I mean, Andy Garcia is a fantastic actor. Yeah. He’s a fantastic is that that is going to be a good movie. I am down the watch that I don’t want to watch that. Now now, especially now that I watched father ride the first one. It’s gonna be a tough, it’s going to be tough to outdo the original with Steve Martin because Steve Martin is a genius. Oh, yeah. No, but, man, I’m excited. I think it comes out like June 16 or something.

Cousin Primo 1:14:18
says we’re doing our July 6. There’s two other movies we need to do. Was that one. Adventures in babysitting,

Edgar OtraVez 1:14:27
bro. Yes. Adventures in babysitting. That’s fantastic.

Cousin Primo 1:14:31
And the other one is stars Christina Applegate. The babysitter is dead. Yeah, who killed the babysitter?

Edgar OtraVez 1:14:42
So don’t tell mom the babysitter’s dead.

Cousin Primo 1:14:45
There you go. That one? Yeah. I like

Edgar OtraVez 1:14:49
I don’t remember that movie. The title. I remember the title. I remember the poster. Because there’s like the feet sticking out of the ground and Christina Applegate and a bunch of other kids just sitting on the porch looking at the feet in the grass. Yeah. But yeah, I don’t remember that movie. I think I ended up tuning out because I think it was I think it’s a little bit of a family movie. You know? But do adventures in Babysitting is an amazing movie. or I shouldn’t say an amazing movie. It’s a funny movie. It’s based in Chicago. Right? Exactly. They and they tour all over Chicago. Eventually they end up in lower Wacker

Cousin Primo 1:15:31
the guy the mechanic is actually what’s his day he came out of Daredevil the series well as the king fan.

Edgar OtraVez 1:15:40
Yes, he plays he they call him Thor in that movie eventually because the king thing which just kind of goes back to the whole thing, or is this like, you know, you can die a hero or live long enough to become a villain?

Cousin Primo 1:15:54
You know? Me

Edgar OtraVez 1:15:57
you know? But yeah, like I know who you’re talking about. I forget his name. Let me look it up right now. He’s in all those Law and Order movies or shows

Cousin Primo 1:16:06
Oh series. Yeah, he has his own series. It’s criminal intent.

Edgar OtraVez 1:16:11
Criminal Intent. Yeah. Series. And his name is Vincent the on to the on offer the you know, I can’t pronounce that name. The on Ofori frill. 30 To be part of the No. Shit I give up. I’m sorry, man. I’m sorry. I’m a jerk. I don’t know how to pronounce your name. I’m the moment the name doesn’t is not like American enough. Or Mexican or Spanish enough. I lose. You know? In this this time. It hasn’t gotten educated in some of these other languages.

Cousin Primo 1:16:58
Yeah, dude is like those type of movies. Do you know we all grew up watching that stuff. And some of those movies do have a nostalgia tool? Yeah, I don’t know why, but it’s like, some of those movies. You just watch. You know, you’ve watched it 100 times maybe 1000 times. It just you keep laughing at the same spot.

Edgar OtraVez 1:17:17
We do. Gremlins it? Yeah, no, we did do Gremlins we talked about I think we did Gremlin and horror episode one sweet we did it as part of one of our favorites. I think or one of us did.

Cousin Primo 1:17:29
I thought it was critters. No,

Edgar OtraVez 1:17:32
no, we didn’t do critters. But yeah, dude. All right, man. I we veered off way off topic.

Cousin Primo 1:17:39
I need to bring it back.

Edgar OtraVez 1:17:43
First of all, that’s not how you pronounce it.

Cousin Primo 1:17:47
Like you said they don’t sound English enough or Spanish and I was like, you lose that far.

Edgar OtraVez 1:17:53
Yeah. It’s sad to Ichi.

Cousin Primo 1:17:56
southill Ichi. Yeah. Gucci, Gucci,

Edgar OtraVez 1:18:02
Zamboni,

Cousin Primo 1:18:04
Italian, Italian blood.

Edgar OtraVez 1:18:06
Zenga? Labuda

Cousin Primo 1:18:08
the black swordsman you know Zangief about it, you know?

Oh, speaking of that,

Zheng Yi.

Edgar OtraVez 1:18:33
You’re gonna talk about the news fighter coming?

Cousin Primo 1:18:38
No, I was actually gonna say did you guys do the podcast about the fight?

Edgar OtraVez 1:18:44
Yes, we did. It’s recorded. I haven’t I haven’t finished editing it yet. Okay.

Cousin Primo 1:18:49
That was like you said janky but I remember

Edgar OtraVez 1:18:52
speaking Zangief the UFC fights this past weekend. What do you think?

Cousin Primo 1:18:58
Yeah, thank you one. Yeah

Edgar OtraVez 1:19:10
yeah, yeah, Jiří Procházka like that dude pulled out a win right out of his ass right there in the end, man. That dude, as wacky as he is, we’re kind of on subject here. Dude believes in the Bushido away the whole samurai lifestyle.

Cousin Primo 1:19:28
Is that why he did that thing on his head?

Edgar OtraVez 1:19:30
That’s why he’s got that little ponytail right at the top of his head. He’s not trying to be like a cha cha girl. He’s over here. He’s over here. You know? reppin the samurai life. You know, I thought he was trying to be Latin in the 1980s. But now he’s he’s repping the he’s repping the samurai life.

Cousin Primo 1:19:47
So there you go back to Zen Gucci

we’re back at it. There

you go. Okay, gotcha.

Edgar OtraVez 1:19:58
Yeah, talking about samurai is back to Zangief?

Say Zatoichi

Cousin Primo 1:20:15
Zatoichi

Edgar OtraVez 1:20:16
Ah, fucker. You got it right. I though you were going to fuck it up good Zamadoochi

Cousin Primo 1:20:24
Zamadoochi? That sounds like a Pokemon

Edgar OtraVez 1:20:30
What Pokemon is this? Zamadoochi!! Yay!

Cousin Primo 1:20:33
that’s all I can say

Edgar OtraVez 1:20:37
now do so anyway, I think yeah like since we veered off topic man and we went into all this other places, let’s let’s bring it up and just give your final thoughts and then we’ll close out

Cousin Primo 1:20:52
okay my final thoughts about the movie itself was it’s a very very old school style movie. You know, it’s it’s very straight to the point is very enjoyable movie you know I went to one of my favorites, you know sounds it’s on my list of martial art movies even though it’s a samurai movie,

Edgar OtraVez 1:21:13
it’s a martial arts movie, I would consider it a martial arts movie, would you?

Cousin Primo 1:21:16
I mean, yeah,

Edgar OtraVez 1:21:17
it’s you know, Samurais and swordsmanship. Yeah.

Cousin Primo 1:21:21
Okay, then yeah, then that I would say is what’s still on my list, you know, which we need to do a review of our top like five or three.

Edgar OtraVez 1:21:30
Oh, you want to do a review of your top five? Like we can do a review? Did we ever do a review of your favorite top five kung fu flicks or martial arts? Movies? Because I know I’ve done that with my cousin Dan. Because Dan Yeah, the only reason we stopped doing those is because it was a task. It was a task to watch all those movies, it was hard to get all those movies done. That’s why we don’t do the lists anymore. That’s what you want me to movies once that one one at a time. But dude, I’m down for that. Like I’m down to like duel. Like, if it’s just you, like, it’s just gonna be you and we’re gonna do your list. I’m done and watch all those movies that you that you want to do? Like, yeah, you can you can shoot me your list and then we’ll talk about it. Sure. Yeah, let’s do. Let’s do this. We’ll do follow the bride first. Okay, and then we’ll do your top five. Okay, sounds good. You got you got access to the list. So you can put you can put your five in there. Right and then and then we’ll see we’ll see who else wants to wants to join in? Maybe we will get let you or maybe we’ll get my cousin Dan. Or maybe I’ll get a guest and

Cousin Primo 1:22:34
what happened to what’s his name?

Edgar OtraVez 1:22:37
The middle works guy. No, no, no, no, no.

Cousin Primo 1:22:41
We did the Dragon Ball was over him.

Edgar OtraVez 1:22:43
Oh, you’re talking about freedom. Right? Oh yeah. You want to do you want to do one more freedom?

Cousin Primo 1:22:49
Why do the Ninja Turtle one Wifredo Oh, that’s

Edgar OtraVez 1:22:51
right. That’s right. Well, we’re doing Ninja Turtles Wifredo Well, it’s up to you man. You want to do Ninja Turtles or you want to do top five? Kung Fu movies?

Cousin Primo 1:23:01
Yes sir. Turtles I want to celebrate easements birthday.

Edgar OtraVez 1:23:03
All right. We Okay, so in the next few episodes, we got to do turtles follow the bride and Goodfellows Oh, right. Kill bills gotta be in there someplace to that love Cuba either Kill Bill Kill Bill or Pulp Fiction one of those.

Cousin Primo 1:23:23
Well, I already see you already have Pulp Fiction. So it’s Paul fishing and Kill Bill sorta like the same director or Yeah,

Edgar OtraVez 1:23:31
it’s good to ginger. You know?

Cousin Primo 1:23:33
How are you doing? Quinton Charles top three? Do I already know love?

Edgar OtraVez 1:23:39
I watch all these movies too.

Cousin Primo 1:23:42
Right? But what are your personal favorite? We’re looking at what personally for me it’s Pulp Fiction for fiction Kill Bill and Planet Terror

Edgar OtraVez 1:23:58
no planet tears not his planet tears Roberto Rodriguez. Oh, then that’s a double feature that was the Grindhouse double feature. Yeah, that was not his that was Roberto Rodriguez. His was Death Proof

Cousin Primo 1:24:13
Oh walk in and Death Proof

Edgar OtraVez 1:24:15
that’s a funny that’s a funny double feature because it was like these two were talking to each other and they’re like, Hey, man, I got a great idea and he’s like what you know, you know the Grindhouse movies and he’s like, yeah, like let’s do a Grindhouse movie like you do yours. I’ll do mine. We’ll do a feat we’ll do a double feature and he’s like, fuck yeah, it’s like Yeah, dude, let’s just go go deep on the on the Grindhouse thing let’s just like really hit it hard. Like hit

Cousin Primo 1:24:39
all the movies are fucking just a bloody gory first,

Edgar OtraVez 1:24:43
but the thing is, is like for some reason. For some reason, I feel like Roberto Rodriguez didn’t understand the assignment. I feel like like Roberto Rodriguez, went the goofy route. Like he went he When, like over there, you know, and then Tarantino showed them like, Tarantino shows up with his movies and I’m like, this is actually a pretty fucking good movie. You know? That proof is amazing. And I’m like, what? Like, wait a minute, how come this movie is good? And you’re suck, you know? Like, right, right? Yeah, it was like, wait a minute and then like, I feel like Roberto Rodriguez is like, Damn, dude, I thought I thought were fucking around. I didn’t know you’re gonna do this shit for real man. Like, I fucked up now. I got this movie. Fuck. Alright, fuck it. Let’s just Let’s just make it fuck it. Let’s just go ahead give it to the unit to the producers will fucking just do it. Yeah, yeah, no, I know. I know. I fucked up just to make it just make it that’s also a Roberto Rodriguez movie. Okay, my chat is all Roberto Rodriguez. My like, the funny thing is about like fucking Roberto Rodriguez is that fucking cat? That dude is doing some of the episodes in was a he’s doing some Star Wars episodes. Yes, I

Cousin Primo 1:26:01
did hear that. Yeah,

Edgar OtraVez 1:26:02
I think he did. I think he’s doing some of the Mandalorian Yeah,

Cousin Primo 1:26:08
he got signed up for Mandalorian season three.

Edgar OtraVez 1:26:10
That’s fucking dope man know what he he did? Yeah, he he’s been doing them you know? So that should that’s just crazy man. Because like he can make a good movie. Yeah, fuck. Why didn’t I think of this before? mariachi we got to do the mariachi El Mariachi and Desperado. Ah. Yeah, bro. El Mariachi. That’s what we gotta do. We’re gonna do anybody, Archie. We’ve hooking Fredo that’s what we’re doing.

Cousin Primo 1:26:40
I’m down. I’m down.

Edgar OtraVez 1:26:41
I’m gonna get fucking fried or I’m gonna tell him right now. Then mariachi. All those fucking Mexicans will get doing what he

Cousin Primo 1:26:49
you better record this law? You better record this? Because I’m gonna wear a fucking sombrero.

Edgar OtraVez 1:26:57
Do you gotta get you gotta you gotta forget. You’re gonna rip the leather rasa. You’re gonna forget.

Cousin Primo 1:27:02
represent that rasa? Yeah, my Corona right here.

Edgar OtraVez 1:27:05
Yeah, you go. Tacos. You’re gonna cosplay Mexican? I’m halfway there dude, mariachi that’s what we need to do. We need to do and mariachi I know we just put a slate out of all the shit we want to do. We’re going to do mariachi next fuck Okay. mariachi next. Maybe Maybe I’ll give again. No, let’s just you me Fredo will do a mariachi I gotta give let you go arrest man. I know that I know. I’m wearing them down. I don’t want to fucking I don’t want him to get pissed at me. But at mariachi you me Fredo? I’m gonna tell Fredo see what’s up.

Cousin Primo 1:27:44
Okay, and on that note, what do you think of that two g

Edgar OtraVez 1:27:53
Zamboni.

Cousin Primo 1:27:56
You went to Italian on that one.

Edgar OtraVez 1:27:58
Do not do Ichi man. I love that movie. That movie is dope man is a great action movie, man. It’s worth watching. It’s absolutely worth watching. I remember the ending with the dancing being a little weird. But now that I look at it with new eyes. I don’t think it’s weird. I think it’s great. It’s a great movie.

Cousin Primo 1:28:16
You know, the group that did the dancing on there was the there will no

Edgar OtraVez 1:28:23
Oh, really?

Cousin Primo 1:28:24
They’re like to tap that. It’s a fantastic company.

Edgar OtraVez 1:28:27
Yeah, they’re these little like, crazy tap dancing at the end.

Cousin Primo 1:28:31
Right? They did. They did crazy dancing with throughout the movie. They they’re, like harmonized. Yeah, the first thing you see that the seat you see the four there? They’re like going through the mud, but they’re making noise. Like they’re making a rhythm. It’s basically the second time you see them. Is their tap dancing in the rain. Yeah. Okay. And I was like, wow, that is kind of crazy. But I get it. It’s called the the Japanese tap dance. The

Edgar OtraVez 1:29:06
stripes. The stripes, the dance troupe the stripes. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. All right. Well, yeah, yeah, I think it’s great man. Um, in like I said, now that I see with new eyes, it all makes sense. You know? It didn’t make sense when I was younger when I watched it, you know? Yeah. But now Now that I am looking at it a little more mature. I think it makes sense. It all makes sense, because it’s a celebration. It was a festival that was already happening that was already slated to happen. It just happened to coincide with the falling of that of that game. Right. So anyway, yeah, dude, so we better call it quits. Thanks so much, man. Thanks, brother. So this is Edgar OtraVez and cousin Primo. We will catch you next time.

Cousin Primo 1:29:54
Later guys. We’re out. We’re out.

Edgar OtraVez 1:30:00
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